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Hi all
I'm back to thinking about doing something I've been thinking of for absolutely ages, which is to get myself a cheap track car. This would be an ultra cheap "track only" car.
I'm currently thinking about the well proven route of Pug 205 GTi 1.9 (I have a very small 2nd garage), strip it, roll cage and distinguisher as a starter. Maybe overhaul the front brakes with new disks and pads. You know the kind of thing, keep the budget around 1500 to 2000 max initially.
As part of the cost cutting, and as this car would only be used a few times a year (depending on how addicted I get :-) I was thinking of registering the car as SORN, throw a towbar on the daily (£95), hire a trailer each time (£30 - 40 ? or buy a cheapie) and keep the car off the road. Saves all the messing about with road tax, insurance, MOT etc.
Now, reading all the track day company sites, a lot of them say the car has to be "road legal" ... what does that MEAN exactly ? Naturally it's in my personal interest to ensure the car is safe (tyres, brakes, suspension condition and so on) so that can be taken as red, I'll keep the car in good running condition, however does this mean I'd have to have an MOT certificate or tax ?!?
TIA
Nev
I'm back to thinking about doing something I've been thinking of for absolutely ages, which is to get myself a cheap track car. This would be an ultra cheap "track only" car.
I'm currently thinking about the well proven route of Pug 205 GTi 1.9 (I have a very small 2nd garage), strip it, roll cage and distinguisher as a starter. Maybe overhaul the front brakes with new disks and pads. You know the kind of thing, keep the budget around 1500 to 2000 max initially.
As part of the cost cutting, and as this car would only be used a few times a year (depending on how addicted I get :-) I was thinking of registering the car as SORN, throw a towbar on the daily (£95), hire a trailer each time (£30 - 40 ? or buy a cheapie) and keep the car off the road. Saves all the messing about with road tax, insurance, MOT etc.
Now, reading all the track day company sites, a lot of them say the car has to be "road legal" ... what does that MEAN exactly ? Naturally it's in my personal interest to ensure the car is safe (tyres, brakes, suspension condition and so on) so that can be taken as red, I'll keep the car in good running condition, however does this mean I'd have to have an MOT certificate or tax ?!?
TIA
Nev
Thanks for the replies.
That's the other reason(s) for trailering it there ... a) I'd be more inclined to travel to tracks that bit further away when in the comfort of the daily driver, as opposed to a noisy buzz box, and b) if I stuff it or break it I can still get home
So one "yes" and one "no" then so far ... ?
That's the other reason(s) for trailering it there ... a) I'd be more inclined to travel to tracks that bit further away when in the comfort of the daily driver, as opposed to a noisy buzz box, and b) if I stuff it or break it I can still get home
So one "yes" and one "no" then so far ... ?
missedtheapexagn said:
Hi. I'm with Easytrack. Providing the car is safe - and it'll be obvious if it's not - it does not have to be MOT'd, road insured etc to come on an Easytrack event, unless specified otherwise. Full road licence is required, of course.
Hang on ... I've just re-read your post again.
The car doesn't have to be MOT'd or insured.
But it does have to have road tax.
But if it's not MOT'd or insured, I can't get road tax can I ?!?
So I DO have to have insurance, tax and MOT then ??
nevpugh308 said:
Hi. I'm with Easytrack. Providing the car is safe - and it'll be obvious if it's not - it does not have to be MOT'd, road insured etc to come on an Easytrack event, unless specified otherwise. Full road licence is required, of course.
Hang on ... I've just re-read your post again.
The car doesn't have to be MOT'd or insured.
But it does have to have road tax.
But if it's not MOT'd or insured, I can't get road tax can I ?!?
So I DO have to have insurance, tax and MOT then ??
Err wash ya ears out he said road licence i.e you have a licence to drive on the road, not road tax (or road fund licence)!
Personally im against un-road legal cars from the cheaper end of the market on tracks days, ok might be a bit rich coming from me as my old track heap could sport a Police aware sticker!
but road legal & well maintained etc etc, but some of the stupidest & most woeful track driving ive ever seen was from trailered old hot catch type heaps inc subarus etc that were trailered there. Couple of hundred quid heaps playing on track in the hands of inexperienced track nobbers, on track with with £50k+ & even 100+k cars on track is not really the greatest of ideas IMHO.
iguana said:
Err wash ya ears out he said road licence i.e you have a licence to drive on the road, not road tax (or road fund licence)!
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Couple of hundred quid heaps playing on track in the hands of inexperienced track nobbers, on track with with £50k+ & even 100+k cars on track is not really the greatest of ideas IMHO.
LOL, d'oh ! Sorry, it's been a long day and I'll put that down to a senior moment
I hear what you're saying, and what I'm thinking of would be a couple of grands worth of "heap", but I'd work hard to ensure there's no "heap-ishness" about it. In my case this is all about (really) insurance. This will be the 4th car in the household, and insurance costs are silly (especially when you start mentioning the word "gti" and "modified" and rollcage, stripped interior etc ...)
We find that word spreads very fast if something even mildly questionable turns up for a track day. If other trackdayers think they're going to lose track time because something looks like it might leak, fall apart or explode then gentle disquiet pervades.
But the bottom line is that the marshalls will always play safe and disallow track access on anything that looks even mildly iffy until they are convinced it's safe and sound.
And on the licence front - sorry, of course, I meant full DRIVERS licence.
But the bottom line is that the marshalls will always play safe and disallow track access on anything that looks even mildly iffy until they are convinced it's safe and sound.
And on the licence front - sorry, of course, I meant full DRIVERS licence.
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