What Track day car - must be Automatic Gearbox

What Track day car - must be Automatic Gearbox

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rkp666

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18 posts

15 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Straight away I understand auto box is not the thing to have, unfortunately I have to drive automatic. Set my sights on a 3.2 DSG TT , however can I do any better ..have under 8k for the car. nearest track Snetterton..
Any advice greatly received.

VladD

8,008 posts

272 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Boxster Tiptronic.
Merc SLK.
MR2 MK3.
Smart Roadster.

TT or MR2 out of that lot I think.

BertBert

19,703 posts

218 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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Caterham 620R with sequential box?
Emira i4
Radical SR3
GT3 RS PDK

rathe a lot of rather good auto track cars

iguana

7,055 posts

267 months

Friday 15th September 2023
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BertBert said:
Caterham 620R with sequential box?
Emira i4
Radical SR3
GT3 RS PDK

rathe a lot of rather good auto track cars
I'll have two of each for £8k please!

rkp666

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Friday 15th September 2023
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iguana said:
I'll have two of each for £8k please!
.. absolutely!

Steve H

5,766 posts

202 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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The MR2 is a pretty good call, not so sure about a TT which is generally a nicer road car IMO.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15604271

Most autos with horsepower in that price range will tend to be barges unfortunately which means not great on track and not cheap to run if you do boxedin

thebraketester

14,705 posts

145 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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rkp666 said:
Straight away I understand auto box is not the thing to have, unfortunately I have to drive automatic. Set my sights on a 3.2 DSG TT , however can I do any better ..have under 8k for the car. nearest track Snetterton..
Any advice greatly received.
If you have your eyes on the tt then get the 2.0T instead. The 3.2 is heavy and will feel slow on track.

rkp666

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15 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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thebraketester said:
If you have your eyes on the tt then get the 2.0T instead. The 3.2 is heavy and will feel slow on track.
Ok, like this advice. Thanks. So if I wanted to enter competition - 2.0T also allows me.

I thought DSG gearbox the thing, giving more ‘feel’but perhaps BMW box is good - concerned only that it be tail happy- to try and catch it with me only having one arm? Or will the cars traction control assist?(I thought you switch those sorts of things off?)

bobthemonkey

4,029 posts

223 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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rkp666 said:
Ok, like this advice. Thanks. So if I wanted to enter competition - 2.0T also allows me.

I thought DSG gearbox the thing, giving more ‘feel’but perhaps BMW box is good - concerned only that it be tail happy- to try and catch it with me only having one arm? Or will the cars traction control assist?(I thought you switch those sorts of things off?)
At that age it will be the ZF6 box, which was pretty much the best conventional auto of its generation.

You may be able to find a push pull setup for the paddle shifter.

bobthemonkey

4,029 posts

223 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Having just checked my own statement on google the non M3 e92s seemingly had push pull paddles as standard (so one handed up and down shift on the same paddle). The paddles were tiny so you can always get bigger ones.

DickyC

51,709 posts

205 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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SLK32 AMG

No idea why they're so cheap.

rkp666

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18 posts

15 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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Ok, so I need to look up this sort of stuff to understand it.. to know what cars have what gearboxes etc.. I really appreciate this information

DickyC

51,709 posts

205 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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rkp666 said:
Ok, so I need to look up this sort of stuff to understand it.. to know what cars have what gearboxes etc.. I really appreciate this information
AMG are all automatic.

Some slip under the radar of desirability and are, as a result, good value.

git-r

969 posts

206 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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I think a TT might be a good bet but try emailing Darkside Developments as they’ve been successfully racing a couple of TT’s, petrol and diesel, and really know their stuff and would give some very useful advice.

The thing with tracking a car, and what you only really learn once you start doing it yourself, is maintenance and repairs can get expensive on certain cars more than others. Also some cars are much more track ready than others so you don’t have to spend on brakes, cooling, oil surge.

I’m not sure if your budget would stretch to a modern Renault Clio rs as they’re auto and I bet they’re brilliant on track and don’t need money spending to make them reliable.

The VAG group cars might need more work to be reliable and more expensive, not sure. Darkside would know 👍

rkp666

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18 posts

15 months

Sunday 17th September 2023
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Cheers for this . .
I posted my question got some really good advice, Ive come round to the same thoughts and Im going to stick with my original idea or getting A TT. I don't see myself as that lead winning racer - this is purely my starter, my fun and fulfilment perhaps until track time/money grow..
My running question is TT MK1 3.2 or MK 2 2.0T or MK 2 diesel - driving diesel automatic feels more on road cars I've driven?

Bright Halo

3,245 posts

242 months

Sunday 17th September 2023
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Can you get an auto GT86 for £8k?

rkp666

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15 months

Sunday 17th September 2023
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I think that a big ask unfortunately..

egor110

17,365 posts

210 months

Sunday 17th September 2023
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git-r said:
I think a TT might be a good bet but try emailing Darkside Developments as they’ve been successfully racing a couple of TT’s, petrol and diesel, and really know their stuff and would give some very useful advice.

The thing with tracking a car, and what you only really learn once you start doing it yourself, is maintenance and repairs can get expensive on certain cars more than others. Also some cars are much more track ready than others so you don’t have to spend on brakes, cooling, oil surge.

I’m not sure if your budget would stretch to a modern Renault Clio rs as they’re auto and I bet they’re brilliant on track and don’t need money spending to make them reliable.

The VAG group cars might need more work to be reliable and more expensive, not sure. Darkside would know ??
Not sure I'd say successfully racing , it's always breaking unlike there golf.

thebraketester

14,705 posts

145 months

Sunday 17th September 2023
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rkp666 said:
Cheers for this . .
I posted my question got some really good advice, Ive come round to the same thoughts and Im going to stick with my original idea or getting A TT. I don't see myself as that lead winning racer - this is purely my starter, my fun and fulfilment perhaps until track time/money grow..
My running question is TT MK1 3.2 or MK 2 2.0T or MK 2 diesel - driving diesel automatic feels more on road cars I've driven?
2.0T

egor110

17,365 posts

210 months

Sunday 17th September 2023
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What about a golf gti with the dsg gearbox ?

If you have a look at danny dc2redfacen YouTube he got a test drive in a bmw or maybe audi that'was owned by a disabled guy.

Edited by egor110 on Sunday 17th September 13:08