S2000, MX5 ND, MR2, GT/GR86
Discussion
I've had my eyes on these cars for a while now and I wanted to get a good idea on how much they'd cost on consumables for track days.
I think the s2000 is the most expensive to out of here for track consumables. However, for daily driving I think it's something I can afford to run (correct me if I'm wrong), but in the end I want to have a decently affordable drivers car. And I think it'll help that for the first couple years, if iI intend to keep it stock and just daily drive it with the occasional track day experience before fully making it as a weekend car and then taking it to the track more often (Whether that be the s2000 or the others from the list)
What are your thoughts?
I think the s2000 is the most expensive to out of here for track consumables. However, for daily driving I think it's something I can afford to run (correct me if I'm wrong), but in the end I want to have a decently affordable drivers car. And I think it'll help that for the first couple years, if iI intend to keep it stock and just daily drive it with the occasional track day experience before fully making it as a weekend car and then taking it to the track more often (Whether that be the s2000 or the others from the list)
What are your thoughts?
Nickp82 said:
Having assessed your post and the information within, I’m sorry to have to correct you and confirm you cannot afford the S2000.
Also, what’s the question?
Damn...Also, what’s the question?
Sorry if i didn't make it clear. I'm just wanting to get any ideas on what are the running costs of the cars on the lists as well as for track days.
You should be able to work it all out with a reasonable degree of accuracy.
Purchase costs are easy to find
Insurance is specific to you
Tax costs is available online
Fuel, spares etc consumption is specific to you, mileage etc but prices for most parts are found online
Personally if I could afford an S2000 now I’d buy one, keep it stock, and just enjoy it because I think they will only go up in value now. A good one is already £12-15k
I’d get an NC MX5, coilovers and a BBR200 kit, that would make a nice road/track car that you’ll be fine driving daily. They are cheap to buy, run and maintain. They are light on brakes/tyres on track and 200bhp/ton in a light car will feel much faster than 300bhp/ton in a heavier car. You’ll have a lot of fun.
I know nothing about MR2s or the GT86.
Purchase costs are easy to find
Insurance is specific to you
Tax costs is available online
Fuel, spares etc consumption is specific to you, mileage etc but prices for most parts are found online
Personally if I could afford an S2000 now I’d buy one, keep it stock, and just enjoy it because I think they will only go up in value now. A good one is already £12-15k
I’d get an NC MX5, coilovers and a BBR200 kit, that would make a nice road/track car that you’ll be fine driving daily. They are cheap to buy, run and maintain. They are light on brakes/tyres on track and 200bhp/ton in a light car will feel much faster than 300bhp/ton in a heavier car. You’ll have a lot of fun.
I know nothing about MR2s or the GT86.
pablo said:
You should be able to work it all out with a reasonable degree of accuracy.
Purchase costs are easy to find
Insurance is specific to you
Tax costs is available online
Fuel, spares etc consumption is specific to you, mileage etc but prices for most parts are found online
Personally if I could afford an S2000 now I’d buy one, keep it stock, and just enjoy it because I think they will only go up in value now. A good one is already £12-15k
I’d get an NC MX5, coilovers and a BBR200 kit, that would make a nice road/track car that you’ll be fine driving daily. They are cheap to buy, run and maintain. They are light on brakes/tyres on track and 200bhp/ton in a light car will feel much faster than 300bhp/ton in a heavier car. You’ll have a lot of fun.
I know nothing about MR2s or the GT86.
I'll definitely make some calculations. I was hoping to at least get an initial idea about the costs and the experiences from others that have driven these cars. Purchase costs are easy to find
Insurance is specific to you
Tax costs is available online
Fuel, spares etc consumption is specific to you, mileage etc but prices for most parts are found online
Personally if I could afford an S2000 now I’d buy one, keep it stock, and just enjoy it because I think they will only go up in value now. A good one is already £12-15k
I’d get an NC MX5, coilovers and a BBR200 kit, that would make a nice road/track car that you’ll be fine driving daily. They are cheap to buy, run and maintain. They are light on brakes/tyres on track and 200bhp/ton in a light car will feel much faster than 300bhp/ton in a heavier car. You’ll have a lot of fun.
I know nothing about MR2s or the GT86.
Yeah I think for the s2ks the prices probably aren't ever going to depreciate for what they are. I wouldn't mind buying an S2k for that price, call me crazy, just as long as I can afford to keep it.
Definitely with the lighter weight cars it's easier to increase power than it is to reduce weight on a heavier car. I definitely prefer light weight cars. I'm just not keen on the NC - although the facelift is more visually appealing. The ND - specifically the ND2 already comes with 180bhp from factory.
I saw a you tube video on the GR86 where they test drove it for a while and reported a worse fuel economy than the first gen (probably expected) but I think these guys were saying that it averages less than 30mpg.
Mr-B said:
The GR86 is the latest version of the GT86 but they are all sold out, unless you want to pay a flippers premium for it you won't get one. I have no experience of the MR2 but I would imagine they are cheap to run, probably in the same ballpark as MX5's generally.
Yeah - i'm curious to see how peple find the GR86 once it's released. Im guessing they were pre-ordered? MK3 MR2 is the cheapest when I went through the prices.
Cambs_Stuart said:
If you're worried about sub 30 mpg then track days may not be for you...
Any 15 year old performance car is going to need a decent amount of maintenance, even ones as well built as the honda.
I was surprised to hear that 28mpg came from just motorway driving for a 2.4 NA engine unless that's the average for these types of engines. I mean either way I'm not really bothered about fuel economy.Any 15 year old performance car is going to need a decent amount of maintenance, even ones as well built as the honda.
You appear to be comparing rather different cars...
The MX5 and MR2 are a performance class below the S2000. The GT86 is a coupe so you'll need a tin-opener for roof down motoring.
The MX5 is a lot of fun to drive, but if you want something fast look elsewhere. The MR2 I've never driven, but from speaking to owners I understand it has with the same handling features as most small mid-engine sportscars; low polar moment of inertia making for a quick turn-in but also means it can bite you if you push your luck. Also front end lift at very high speed.
S2000, for me, is a great proposition for a daily driver with sporting pretentions as it has decent performance when you are on it as well as being very drivable in town. Long distance cruising is its weak point Vs the MX5 due to being at 4k rpm at 75mph.
The MX5 and MR2 are a performance class below the S2000. The GT86 is a coupe so you'll need a tin-opener for roof down motoring.
The MX5 is a lot of fun to drive, but if you want something fast look elsewhere. The MR2 I've never driven, but from speaking to owners I understand it has with the same handling features as most small mid-engine sportscars; low polar moment of inertia making for a quick turn-in but also means it can bite you if you push your luck. Also front end lift at very high speed.
S2000, for me, is a great proposition for a daily driver with sporting pretentions as it has decent performance when you are on it as well as being very drivable in town. Long distance cruising is its weak point Vs the MX5 due to being at 4k rpm at 75mph.
donkmeister said:
You appear to be comparing rather different cars...
The MX5 and MR2 are a performance class below the S2000. The GT86 is a coupe so you'll need a tin-opener for roof down motoring.
The MX5 is a lot of fun to drive, but if you want something fast look elsewhere. The MR2 I've never driven, but from speaking to owners I understand it has with the same handling features as most small mid-engine sportscars; low polar moment of inertia making for a quick turn-in but also means it can bite you if you push your luck. Also front end lift at very high speed.
S2000, for me, is a great proposition for a daily driver with sporting pretentions as it has decent performance when you are on it as well as being very drivable in town. Long distance cruising is its weak point Vs the MX5 due to being at 4k rpm at 75mph.
I'm mainly just looking at rwd, lightweight na cars. Power to me is a bonus more than a necessity. I'm not really fussed about it being convertible or not. The MX5 and MR2 are a performance class below the S2000. The GT86 is a coupe so you'll need a tin-opener for roof down motoring.
The MX5 is a lot of fun to drive, but if you want something fast look elsewhere. The MR2 I've never driven, but from speaking to owners I understand it has with the same handling features as most small mid-engine sportscars; low polar moment of inertia making for a quick turn-in but also means it can bite you if you push your luck. Also front end lift at very high speed.
S2000, for me, is a great proposition for a daily driver with sporting pretentions as it has decent performance when you are on it as well as being very drivable in town. Long distance cruising is its weak point Vs the MX5 due to being at 4k rpm at 75mph.
I barely do much motorway miles since my commute is about 10/20 minutes a day.
You've had some pretty terrible responses so far.
The S2000 will indeed be expensive to run overall. All cars mentioned give decent MPG relative to their performance and fun factor (certainly the best you can expect from anything track day ready) so lets ignore that.
The S2000 and MR2 are the oldest cars mentioned. The S2000 will want a bottom end refresh (new rod bearings and bolts) if you want to take it on track, as rod knock isn't uncommon on hard driven cars. S2000s also suffer from rust, particularly on the rear subframe and around the adjustable arm bolts etc. Its common for them to seize up completely, meaning you can't adjust the rear geo without replacing bits. Budget around a grand to sort this.
The MR2 would also benefit from rod bearings, but engines are cheaper and slighty sturdier. You will ideally want one with a 2ZZ 190 swap to be on par with the other cars mentioned, but I'd imagine a 140 is still a hoot and you get alot of car for the money given how little MR2s sell for.
The 86 vs MX5 argument is an age old one. The MX5 has roof down capabilities, and there are more out there so they are easier to buy. They are quite impractical for trackdays as you can't carry spares, and they 100% need coilovers and roll bars to be okay on track. As a weekend road car they are fantastic. The facelift 2.0 ND with the higher output engine is on par with an S2000 performance wise, however values are of course quite high as they are a pretty new car. I believe the prefacelift cars had gearbox issues and 150bhp is pretty pants considering their high purchase cost. An MX5 will likely be reasonably cheap to run on track.
GT86s seem to have reliability issues but otherwise are a great option.
The GR86 seems pretty much track ready out of the box, and has a 10 year warranty that is inclusive of track work. Americans have found they handle well out the box on track, and the brakes stand up to abuse with a basic pad and fluid upgrade, which any OEM car will need bar stuff like GT3 Porsches. If you haven't already got an order, you're probably looking at 35k+ to get into one on the second hand market. The GR86 will probably be the cheapest car to run on track and fast road given the warranty and lack of mods required, but has the highest cost of entry.
Your brake and tyre costs will be as low as they could possibly be this side of a Caterham on all four cars mentioned. You are basically dealing with low to mid entry costs (MR2 and S2000) with higher running costs, or mid to high entry costs (Prefacelift ND MX5/GT86 to facelift ND MX5 and GR86) with low running costs. The S2000 is probably the worst value for money as it comes with a scene tax attached to the price tag - they are a cult classic with a huge following.
The S2000 will indeed be expensive to run overall. All cars mentioned give decent MPG relative to their performance and fun factor (certainly the best you can expect from anything track day ready) so lets ignore that.
The S2000 and MR2 are the oldest cars mentioned. The S2000 will want a bottom end refresh (new rod bearings and bolts) if you want to take it on track, as rod knock isn't uncommon on hard driven cars. S2000s also suffer from rust, particularly on the rear subframe and around the adjustable arm bolts etc. Its common for them to seize up completely, meaning you can't adjust the rear geo without replacing bits. Budget around a grand to sort this.
The MR2 would also benefit from rod bearings, but engines are cheaper and slighty sturdier. You will ideally want one with a 2ZZ 190 swap to be on par with the other cars mentioned, but I'd imagine a 140 is still a hoot and you get alot of car for the money given how little MR2s sell for.
The 86 vs MX5 argument is an age old one. The MX5 has roof down capabilities, and there are more out there so they are easier to buy. They are quite impractical for trackdays as you can't carry spares, and they 100% need coilovers and roll bars to be okay on track. As a weekend road car they are fantastic. The facelift 2.0 ND with the higher output engine is on par with an S2000 performance wise, however values are of course quite high as they are a pretty new car. I believe the prefacelift cars had gearbox issues and 150bhp is pretty pants considering their high purchase cost. An MX5 will likely be reasonably cheap to run on track.
GT86s seem to have reliability issues but otherwise are a great option.
The GR86 seems pretty much track ready out of the box, and has a 10 year warranty that is inclusive of track work. Americans have found they handle well out the box on track, and the brakes stand up to abuse with a basic pad and fluid upgrade, which any OEM car will need bar stuff like GT3 Porsches. If you haven't already got an order, you're probably looking at 35k+ to get into one on the second hand market. The GR86 will probably be the cheapest car to run on track and fast road given the warranty and lack of mods required, but has the highest cost of entry.
Your brake and tyre costs will be as low as they could possibly be this side of a Caterham on all four cars mentioned. You are basically dealing with low to mid entry costs (MR2 and S2000) with higher running costs, or mid to high entry costs (Prefacelift ND MX5/GT86 to facelift ND MX5 and GR86) with low running costs. The S2000 is probably the worst value for money as it comes with a scene tax attached to the price tag - they are a cult classic with a huge following.
Edited by Gooly on Monday 31st October 22:05
Personally i think all 4 will be cheap on consumables. The 86 will have more modern part options and the mx5 with a ton of used spares keeping some consumables cheaper.
I own a GT86 and would say its great as a modern practical daily with track potential. Mpg is c35-40 mpg on a long run and 25 on a blast. Cheap insurance and parts seem reasonable with a few more second hand performance parts coming through these days. The boxer engine doesn't sound like the most reliable unit in the world though from what I've heard. You could track it out the box with some better tyres and it's new enough to not have many ageing bushes and other parts that get abused more on track unlike the s2000, mr2 and older mx5s
S2000 is a quicker car but older and going up on value. Would you want to risk that on track? From what I've read these are double wishbone front suspension so a bit of an upgrade from the 86.
Mx5s and Mr2s have a few more options for different budgets. I've been watching dannydc2 on YouTube taking his mk3 mr2 racing and it does look a superb way to get into a reliable/cheap track/race car all be it with a smaller second hand market for performance parts.
I own a GT86 and would say its great as a modern practical daily with track potential. Mpg is c35-40 mpg on a long run and 25 on a blast. Cheap insurance and parts seem reasonable with a few more second hand performance parts coming through these days. The boxer engine doesn't sound like the most reliable unit in the world though from what I've heard. You could track it out the box with some better tyres and it's new enough to not have many ageing bushes and other parts that get abused more on track unlike the s2000, mr2 and older mx5s
S2000 is a quicker car but older and going up on value. Would you want to risk that on track? From what I've read these are double wishbone front suspension so a bit of an upgrade from the 86.
Mx5s and Mr2s have a few more options for different budgets. I've been watching dannydc2 on YouTube taking his mk3 mr2 racing and it does look a superb way to get into a reliable/cheap track/race car all be it with a smaller second hand market for performance parts.
Edited by Racing Sombrero on Monday 31st October 22:38
Gooly said:
You've had some pretty terrible responses so far.
The S2000 will indeed be expensive to run overall. All cars mentioned give decent MPG relative to their performance and fun factor (certainly the best you can expect from anything track day ready) so lets ignore that.
The S2000 and MR2 are the oldest cars mentioned. The S2000 will want a bottom end refresh (new rod bearings and bolts) if you want to take it on track, as rod knock isn't uncommon on hard driven cars. S2000s also suffer from rust, particularly on the rear subframe and around the adjustable arm bolts etc. Its common for them to seize up completely, meaning you can't adjust the rear geo without replacing bits. Budget around a grand to sort this.
The MR2 would also benefit from rod bearings, but engines are cheaper and slighty sturdier. You will ideally want one with a 2ZZ 190 swap to be on par with the other cars mentioned, but I'd imagine a 140 is still a hoot and you get alot of car for the money given how little MR2s sell for.
The 86 vs MX5 argument is an age old one. The MX5 has roof down capabilities, and there are more out there so they are easier to buy. They are quite impractical for trackdays as you can't carry spares, and they 100% need coilovers and roll bars to be okay on track. As a weekend road car they are fantastic. The facelift 2.0 ND is on par with an S2000 performance wise, however values are of course quite high as they are a pretty new car. I believe the prefacelift cars had gearbox issues and 150bhp is pretty pants considering their high purchase cost. An MX5 will likely be reasonably cheap to run on track.
GT86s seem to have reliability issues but otherwise are a great option. The GR86 seems pretty much track ready out of the box, and has a 10 year warranty that is inclusive of track work. Americans have found they handle well on track and the brakes stand up to abuse with a basic pad and fluid upgrade, which any OEM car will need bar stuff like GT3 Porsches. If you haven't already got an order, you're probably looking at 35k+ to get into one on the second hand market. The GT86 will probably be the cheapest car to run on track and fast road given the warranty and lack of mods required, but has the highest cost of entry.
Your brake and tyre costs will be as low as they could possibly be this side of a Caterham on all four cars mentioned. You are basically dealing with low to mid entry costs (MR2 and S2000) with higher running costs, or mid to high entry costs (Prefacelift ND MX5/GT86 to facelift ND MX5 and GR86) with low running costs. The S2000 is probably the worst value for money as it comes with a scene tax attached to the price tag - they are a cult classic with a huge following.
Thank you. The S2000 will indeed be expensive to run overall. All cars mentioned give decent MPG relative to their performance and fun factor (certainly the best you can expect from anything track day ready) so lets ignore that.
The S2000 and MR2 are the oldest cars mentioned. The S2000 will want a bottom end refresh (new rod bearings and bolts) if you want to take it on track, as rod knock isn't uncommon on hard driven cars. S2000s also suffer from rust, particularly on the rear subframe and around the adjustable arm bolts etc. Its common for them to seize up completely, meaning you can't adjust the rear geo without replacing bits. Budget around a grand to sort this.
The MR2 would also benefit from rod bearings, but engines are cheaper and slighty sturdier. You will ideally want one with a 2ZZ 190 swap to be on par with the other cars mentioned, but I'd imagine a 140 is still a hoot and you get alot of car for the money given how little MR2s sell for.
The 86 vs MX5 argument is an age old one. The MX5 has roof down capabilities, and there are more out there so they are easier to buy. They are quite impractical for trackdays as you can't carry spares, and they 100% need coilovers and roll bars to be okay on track. As a weekend road car they are fantastic. The facelift 2.0 ND is on par with an S2000 performance wise, however values are of course quite high as they are a pretty new car. I believe the prefacelift cars had gearbox issues and 150bhp is pretty pants considering their high purchase cost. An MX5 will likely be reasonably cheap to run on track.
GT86s seem to have reliability issues but otherwise are a great option. The GR86 seems pretty much track ready out of the box, and has a 10 year warranty that is inclusive of track work. Americans have found they handle well on track and the brakes stand up to abuse with a basic pad and fluid upgrade, which any OEM car will need bar stuff like GT3 Porsches. If you haven't already got an order, you're probably looking at 35k+ to get into one on the second hand market. The GT86 will probably be the cheapest car to run on track and fast road given the warranty and lack of mods required, but has the highest cost of entry.
Your brake and tyre costs will be as low as they could possibly be this side of a Caterham on all four cars mentioned. You are basically dealing with low to mid entry costs (MR2 and S2000) with higher running costs, or mid to high entry costs (Prefacelift ND MX5/GT86 to facelift ND MX5 and GR86) with low running costs. The S2000 is probably the worst value for money as it comes with a scene tax attached to the price tag - they are a cult classic with a huge following.
Yeah the MR2s mk3 are the cheapest on the list but prices are slowly increasing. I had considered getting the MR2 in the hopes of going for a 2zz swap some point later. I enquired rouge motorsport and overall cost of the swap is around £4k. Assuming purchase price is around 2-4k not too bad I suppose.
I've seen some reviews on the MX5. It's basically has good potential. Stock form they have significant amount of roll. I agree that it is impractical if I can't carry tires or spares like you mentioned. I guess for day to day driving I don't really care much. Yeah, the gearbox are constantly being revised as theres been reports of transmissions issues with the ND1s, but I guess its also good that they're continuously developing it because of the cup racing series thing. I thought that given the ND1 hp is pretty low in comparison to the ND2, I thought I'd be better off going for the ND2 considering doing something like a BBR super 200 on the ND1 is around 2-3k. (Basing on just HP gains alone). It's the lightest so will wear the least on consumables.
The only thing I've heard on the GT86s are the issues with the valve spring. Any other issues relating to blown engines etc are from forced induction if I recall correctly.
I think the S2000 highly appeals to me because of the engine and from watching hot versions videos and stuff as well as the MR2 with the 2zz on, but that's probably why they are expensive. The GT86/GR86 also appeals to me because of also hot version and the original car it was based off from (AE86 and 2000GT).
I'm highly considering the GT86, if the engines issue are mostly related to FI and the nd2.
Edited by Asura on Monday 31st October 22:51
Racing Sombrero said:
Personally i think all 4 will be cheap on consumables. The 86 will have more modern part options and the mx5 with a ton of used spares keeping some consumables cheaper.
I own a GT86 and would say its great as a modern practical daily with track potential. Mpg is c35-40 mpg on a long run and 25 on a blast. Cheap insurance and parts seem reasonable with a few more second hand performance parts coming through these days. The boxer engine doesn't sound like the most reliable unit in the world though from what I've heard. You could track it out the box with some better tyres and it's new enough to not have many ageing bushes and other parts that get abused more on track unlike the s2000, mr2 and older mx5s
S2000 is a quicker car but older and going up on value. Would you want to risk that on track? From what I've read these are double wishbone front suspension so a bit of an upgrade from the 86.
Mx5s and Mr2s have a few more options for different budgets. I've been watching dannydc2 on YouTube taking his mk3 mr2 racing and it does look a superb way to get into a reliable/cheap track/race car all be it with a smaller second hand market for performance parts.
I really like the appeal of the 86 given from the Initial D anime phase as well as it being marketed as the spiritual successor of the 2000gt and the ae86. And watching the videos of the drift king in his one makes me want to get it. I own a GT86 and would say its great as a modern practical daily with track potential. Mpg is c35-40 mpg on a long run and 25 on a blast. Cheap insurance and parts seem reasonable with a few more second hand performance parts coming through these days. The boxer engine doesn't sound like the most reliable unit in the world though from what I've heard. You could track it out the box with some better tyres and it's new enough to not have many ageing bushes and other parts that get abused more on track unlike the s2000, mr2 and older mx5s
S2000 is a quicker car but older and going up on value. Would you want to risk that on track? From what I've read these are double wishbone front suspension so a bit of an upgrade from the 86.
Mx5s and Mr2s have a few more options for different budgets. I've been watching dannydc2 on YouTube taking his mk3 mr2 racing and it does look a superb way to get into a reliable/cheap track/race car all be it with a smaller second hand market for performance parts.
Edited by Racing Sombrero on Monday 31st October 22:38
I think if the s2000 stayed at the current price right now, I'd still consider the s2000 but given that the price won't stay stationary, there wouldn't be much point in owning it other than for having it as a collectors collection or for alternative investment.
I'll definitely get more details on the costs and that'll help me cut off at least one car off the list. Then when the time comes, I'd probably pick the car based on a test drive.
Asura said:
Cambs_Stuart said:
If you're worried about sub 30 mpg then track days may not be for you...
I mean either way I'm not really bothered about fuel economy.I have had an e36 328 & R53 Mini as my most recent TD cars & both got 8 - 11 on track.
I wouldn't even considering tracking an S2000 unless I already owned a poor example.
They aren't as common as other late 90s early 2000s sport cars and even then, unless you're in Japan, tracking older cars like that isn't really viable. There is a good reason that the MX5 and BMW E36 (E36 getting a bit pricey now!) are popular here, there are tons of them. Same reason in Japan, tons of people still run the Silvia, RX7 and AE86, there are tons of them.
I would consider the MR2 and MX5 only simply because they are cheap to buy and cheap to run. I probably wouldn't even buy an ND, would probably just get an NC and once I've gotten comfortable with the car take all the money I saved over the ND and slap a turbo on it with bigger tires.
They aren't as common as other late 90s early 2000s sport cars and even then, unless you're in Japan, tracking older cars like that isn't really viable. There is a good reason that the MX5 and BMW E36 (E36 getting a bit pricey now!) are popular here, there are tons of them. Same reason in Japan, tons of people still run the Silvia, RX7 and AE86, there are tons of them.
I would consider the MR2 and MX5 only simply because they are cheap to buy and cheap to run. I probably wouldn't even buy an ND, would probably just get an NC and once I've gotten comfortable with the car take all the money I saved over the ND and slap a turbo on it with bigger tires.
Well hell.. always travelled to trackdays with a toolbox and a bunch of stuff in my old mk1 mx5. Don't see the problem there - although I never took spare wheels/tyres, can't see why you'd need to, it's a track day (saying that, once turned up at donington in a caterham with a spare set of wheels on board, but that's a whole other story).
I'd also suggest that if you actually calculate it out, the MPG has very little bearing on the running costs, unless you're doing a lot of miles. For track miles, everything is going to have a drinking problem, your bigger consumable costs will be tyres and brakes, but then a lot of that is going to depend on how you drive.
Beyond that, probably not adding much. Mx5's are cheap and plentiful, as are parts and tuning. The've got a lot going for them as track slags. Don't buy the 'need coilovers etc' line personally. It may roll like a torpedoed battleship, but so what? You're still going relatively fast, it's happy to steer with your feet, and it's a bundle of fun. Maybe all the extra stuff adds a couple of seconds of laptime, but again trackday..
S2000 engine is lovely, handling a bit snappy, otherwise I don't know a lot (driven only once) Never driven a MR2, Gt86 only on road.. thought it would make a fun track car.
I'd also suggest that if you actually calculate it out, the MPG has very little bearing on the running costs, unless you're doing a lot of miles. For track miles, everything is going to have a drinking problem, your bigger consumable costs will be tyres and brakes, but then a lot of that is going to depend on how you drive.
Beyond that, probably not adding much. Mx5's are cheap and plentiful, as are parts and tuning. The've got a lot going for them as track slags. Don't buy the 'need coilovers etc' line personally. It may roll like a torpedoed battleship, but so what? You're still going relatively fast, it's happy to steer with your feet, and it's a bundle of fun. Maybe all the extra stuff adds a couple of seconds of laptime, but again trackday..
S2000 engine is lovely, handling a bit snappy, otherwise I don't know a lot (driven only once) Never driven a MR2, Gt86 only on road.. thought it would make a fun track car.
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