Elise S1

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livinginasia

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856 posts

116 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Hi all

Any views on an Elise s1 as a track day car for next year. Been offered one for sale, looks in good condition and might be fun - but haven’t seen many on track this year and wondered why that was?

Too old? Too fragile? It’s had the cylinder head of the K series done recently.

Many thanks for any thoughts !

DrJNA

62 posts

76 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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I've tracked an S1 elise (all be it a Sport 160 Elise Trophy car) and earlier our S2 135R and always enjoyed it very much. Rarely the fastest car on the track these days, but can usually humble some more exotic cars. I find the K series to be a fun engine. One change I would advise it toe links. Had the bolts snap in a few cars over the years and heavy track use will make them go!

They handle very well and being lightweight are generally quite easy on the consumables like brakes and tyres. One of the biggest positives I would say is the Lotus trackday community with Lotus on Track. I must have done over a hundred track days across Europe with them (not so much since corona) and they're up with the best TDO. (Edit : But if you're living in Asia, you wont get to enjoy that part.)

If you buy one, you'll also have a fun car for a countryside blast or European tour too! If you have any specific questions just ask.



Edited by DrJNA on Monday 26th September 14:07

livinginasia

Original Poster:

856 posts

116 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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DrJNA said:
I've tracked an S1 elise (all be it a Sport 160 Elise Trophy car) and earlier our S2 135R and always enjoyed it very much. Rarely the fastest car on the track these days, but can usually humble some more exotic cars. I find the K series to be a fun engine. One change I would advise it toe links. Had the bolts snap in a few cars over the years and heavy track use will make them go!

They handle very well and being lightweight are generally quite easy on the consumables like brakes and tyres. One of the biggest positives I would say is the Lotus trackday community with Lotus on Track. I must have done over a hundred track days across Europe with them (not so much since corona) and they're up with the best TDO. (Edit : But if you're living in Asia, you wont get to enjoy that part.)

If you buy one, you'll also have a fun car for a countryside blast or European tour too! If you have any specific questions just ask.



Edited by DrJNA on Monday 26th September 14:07
Thanks so much, that’s extremely kind. Car would be in the Home Counties so would be able to get to thruxton, Bedford, Goodwood etc.

I have been running a Boxster this year which has been fun, but it’s a bit porky and something lighter might be fun.

Thanks again

QBee

21,332 posts

150 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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If you can stretch your range to Cadwell Park as well, you will love it. 13 corners in 2 miles, so really suits the Elise.
On last week's TVR Car Club track day, 3 of the 4 Lotuses were way quicker than most of the TVRs.
Admittedly one was an Exige 380, but one of the three was an Elise. Handling was sublime in them, I noticed when following.

VTECMatt

1,208 posts

244 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Loved my old one, sublime handling, great on the brakes, cheap to run, unfortunately things brake, like any car but they are getting on a bit now.

phazed

21,962 posts

210 months

Wednesday 28th September 2022
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livinginasia said:
Thanks so much, that’s extremely kind. Car would be in the Home Counties so would be able to get to thruxton, Bedford, Goodwood etc.

I have been running a Boxster this year which has been fun, but it’s a bit porky and something lighter might be fun.

Thanks again
Porky! Wash your mouth out with soap...

I run a 987.1 S with PASM and sticky tyres and it is brilliant on track, (IMHO wink ).

braddo

11,056 posts

194 months

Wednesday 28th September 2022
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DrJNA said:
... Lotus on Track ...
I get the impression that most Lotuses that are quick on track (i.e. driver and car) are at the LoT days, and thus why they are not very common at other track days. This means that most people don't see how quick they can be.

Very highly recommended TDO and they accept other 2-seat sports cars so I'd recommend the OP join LoT for 2 things - enjoy great value track days with very high driving standards, and to check out a variety of Lotuses. smile

anonymous-user

60 months

Wednesday 28th September 2022
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There was an S1 Elise at Brands Hatch yesterday, and while sure it wasn't that fast, it looked like a lot of fun and was there for the whole day.

livinginasia

Original Poster:

856 posts

116 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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phazed said:
Porky! Wash your mouth out with soap...

I run a 987.1 S with PASM and sticky tyres and it is brilliant on track, (IMHO wink ).
Haha! My apologies, my one is only a 2.7 without pasm, the other option is to upgrade to an S like yours !

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

141 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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He's not wrong tho. The porky pork is good on track, but it's far from light, and while it (mostly) conceals it well, it eats tyres/brakes compared to something like an elise. Enjoyed mine (on track and road), but for track use it wouldn't be my first choice.

phazed

21,962 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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A little bit of S porky Box from Cadwell last week.

https://youtu.be/b38ZJuknLBo

G111MDS

336 posts

97 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Not had mine on track (yet), but love the S1 Elise.




phazed

21,962 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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upsidedownmark said:
He's not wrong tho. The porky pork is good on track, but it's far from light, and while it (mostly) conceals it well, it eats tyres/brakes compared to something like an elise. Enjoyed mine (on track and road), but for track use it wouldn't be my first choice.
Sorry for OT, but just as a comparison regarding consumables, three Track Days at Cadwell Park, and one at Castle Combe has left me with 2mm of tread after starting with 4.5mum of tread. Brake pad wear is minimal using Ferodo DS2500’s.

anonymous-user

60 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Don’t forget fuel as well. I get 25mpg on road and 11mpg on track.

jm8403

2,515 posts

31 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Tobermory said:
Don’t forget fuel as well. I get 25mpg on road and 11mpg on track.
Pretty normal for a quick car

phazed

21,962 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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jm8403 said:
Tobermory said:
Don’t forget fuel as well. I get 25mpg on road and 11mpg on track.
Pretty normal for a quick car
Are those figures for an Elise? That is exactly what I get with my Boxster S. Much better than the 4.5 mpg I used to get on track with my 5.5 Chimaera.

anonymous-user

60 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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phazed said:
jm8403 said:
Tobermory said:
Don’t forget fuel as well. I get 25mpg on road and 11mpg on track.
Pretty normal for a quick car
Are those figures for an Elise? That is exactly what I get with my Boxster S. Much better than the 4.5 mpg I used to get on track with my 5.5 Chimaera.
No it’s a BAC Mono.

I’m pretty impressed as it gets driven very hard in track and I was expecting under 10mpg at least.

I suppose it’s quite light though.

The local petrol station guy at Brands was very pleased to see me as with. 30l tank I made several visits!

phazed

21,962 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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30 L! My tea cup is bigger than that

livinginasia

Original Poster:

856 posts

116 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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upsidedownmark said:
He's not wrong tho. The porky pork is good on track, but it's far from light, and while it (mostly) conceals it well, it eats tyres/brakes compared to something like an elise. Enjoyed mine (on track and road), but for track use it wouldn't be my first choice.
It’s funny you mention that as I got through a brand new set of pads installed by my local mechanic in 4 laps of Bedford. Changed them for some harder ones which has lasted longer, but tyres on needing replacement next. It’s a lovely car though on track, beautiful balance.

livinginasia

Original Poster:

856 posts

116 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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G111MDS said:
Not had mine on track (yet), but love the S1 Elise.



That’s gorgeous !