Castle Combe Action Day Crash

Castle Combe Action Day Crash

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helix402

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7,913 posts

188 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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Report is an M140i rolled several times and some people were injured. Afraid my info comes from a terrible online news source. Looking at the vid it would appear BMW driver made some key errors.

Charlie1986

2,025 posts

141 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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I’ve just seen the video of it - apparently the passenger was fighting for her life.

darreni

3,945 posts

276 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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Just saw the footage, that was a massive accident. Thoughts to those involved.

essayer

9,475 posts

200 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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Is Combe normally this busy? eek




Edited by essayer on Monday 5th September 08:00

anonymous-user

60 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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[youtube]https://youtube.com/shorts/utEvtWbH83w?feature=share[/youtube]

https://youtube.com/shorts/utEvtWbH83w?feature=sha...

Seems like the BMW was heading right for the back of that car... Surprised they allow so many cars on track.


Can't get the embed to work for a short.... So given up. Copy and paste.



Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 4th September 23:00

Hackney

6,965 posts

214 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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helix402 said:
Report is an M140i rolled several times and some people were injured. Afraid my info comes from a terrible online news source. Looking at the vid it would appear BMW driver made some key errors.
I’m no track day driving god but I’d say you’re right about key errors.

(Unless I’m watching a different crash, this one was a 240i)

Derek182

162 posts

86 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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I've seen the video as well, just hope everyone involved survived.
Yes the BMW was too fast and out of control, also quite unlucky in that clipping the rear quarter of the car in front sent him into a series of rolls.
But the organisers of the day need to have a long hard look at themselves, there were 15 cars on the straight down to Quarry with more coming out of the pits. If that was repeated all round Combe there must have been 50 cars on track. I've never done a 20 minute slot at an Action Day/car show so not sure what briefing or rules are in place. Apparently there were no sighting laps.
It did all look like an accident waiting to happen I'm afraid.

darreni

3,945 posts

276 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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I did one of the action days about 25 years ago, it was the same then.

Never again.

Driver101

14,376 posts

127 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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I've lost count of the incidents I've seen from Castle Combe track days. The driving standard and amount of cars on track is a real issue.

I hope the occupants of the BMW recover ok. It is hard to understand how they managed to run into the back of the Civic like that.

essayer

9,475 posts

200 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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helix402

Original Poster:

7,913 posts

188 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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Hackney said:
I’m no track day driving god but I’d say you’re right about key errors.

(Unless I’m watching a different crash, this one was a 240i)
Sorry, 240i.

rallycross

13,209 posts

243 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Fastest part of the circuit that’s a horrific crash for a road car.

You can see the Honda applied the brakes just before the impact he was braking way too soon for Avon rise corner - the bmw driver was not allowing any safety margin you never know who you are on track with and what standard of driving they have.

Impact speed probably around 110-130 mph at that section of the circuit.

b0rk

2,345 posts

152 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Ah the annual forge action day at Combe. Track accidents are sadly a given, most of the Combe crashes on YouTube are from these days unfortunately.

Track time is run as 15min sessions with a basic briefing on the rules before you get issued your wristband. The briefing doesn’t have to be just before your season either. However once out the participants who are mostly not trackday regulars basically forget the briefing rules and behave like muppets, overtake any side, under braking etc. The official rules are standard Combe fair of overtake by consent on the right on straights. I can remember a few years ago the Marshall’s red flagging a session as the driving standards where so poor.

The event is very important for the circuit income wise, and normally very well attended.

Didn’t go this year but have been previously, usually some really interesting cars on display amongst a sea of meh. Watching the track “action” can be entertaining with the amount of poor driving. Wouldn’t ever book track time on one of these days. Combe is a circuit can and will bite if you get it wrong.

I hope the driver and passenger in that recover and are okay, has to be the biggest crash so far at an action day. The number of times they rolled Jesus!

GVK

830 posts

248 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Looked very nasty, as above hope they recover from it.

nathwraith1

462 posts

153 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Awful driving by the BMW & I’m shocked at how many cars are there! Accident quite literally waiting to happen.

jm8403

2,515 posts

31 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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b0rk said:
Ah the annual forge action day at Combe. Track accidents are sadly a given, most of the Combe crashes on YouTube are from these days unfortunately.

Track time is run as 15min sessions with a basic briefing on the rules before you get issued your wristband. The briefing doesn’t have to be just before your season either. However once out the participants who are mostly not trackday regulars basically forget the briefing rules and behave like muppets, overtake any side, under braking etc. The official rules are standard Combe fair of overtake by consent on the right on straights. I can remember a few years ago the Marshall’s red flagging a session as the driving standards where so poor.

The event is very important for the circuit income wise, and normally very well attended.

Didn’t go this year but have been previously, usually some really interesting cars on display amongst a sea of meh. Watching the track “action” can be entertaining with the amount of poor driving. Wouldn’t ever book track time on one of these days. Combe is a circuit can and will bite if you get it wrong.

I hope the driver and passenger in that recover and are okay, has to be the biggest crash so far at an action day. The number of times they rolled Jesus!
i hope these chav days get put to a stop as a result. Shocking.

stuthemong

2,372 posts

223 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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That is a shunt, hope they’re OK.

It looks to me like the civic saw him coming in his mirrors and hit the brakes. He was way too far from corner to be braking for that and none of the cars in front were slowing. The bmw was trying to slingshot/switchback behind the civic, and due to the unexpected braking and 100% commitment from the BMW, the door was closed/there was no gap.

It’s totally the BMW driver’s fault, but it was a little unlucky the civic hit the brakes like that, accidentally slamming the door shut. You wouldn’t really expect that to happen. So I have a tiny bit of sympathy for the BMW, but you shouldn’t be pushing that hard (/well with that delta) on a busy track, as said, accident waiting to happen.

I’ve not been to Coombe, but looking at that vid with that concentration of drivers, no interest either.

Hope all recover quickly. Scary how quickly fun can turn serious.

Edited by stuthe on Monday 5th September 08:07

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Blame portioning.


Civic - 0%
BMW - 100%


It does not matter what the civic did. The BMW went into the back of it.

Beethree

811 posts

95 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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I can’t why anyone would want to take a car on an action day, looks like absolute chaos.
Plenty of social media rumours on this one already, hopefully both make a full recovery.

egor110

17,238 posts

209 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Driver101 said:
I've lost count of the incidents I've seen from Castle Combe track days. The driving standard and amount of cars on track is a real issue.

I hope the occupants of the BMW recover ok. It is hard to understand how they managed to run into the back of the Civic like that.
Action days or actual track days?