Silverstone GP in a big aero M3
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I've been doing trackdays in my e46 M3 for several years now and have been DIY modifying it along the way. The chassis and aero have almost reached a point that I'm happy with, as I'm now approaching my goal of GT3 race car cornering speed. Here's a video from Monday's trackday at Silverstone, which had some incredible machinery in attendance (Carrera GT, Gunther Werks 911, DB4, 650 GT3 etc)
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|https://thumbsnap.com/Vq4gCUqZ[/url]Looks like some serious cornering speeds there compared to the other on track. Looks planted as well fair play if you’ve set all that up yourself!
As a side note why do ultimas always seem so slow on any video Iv seen of them, I thought they where up there with fastest track day cars? Are they tricky to drive so people not confident to take to the limits?
As a side note why do ultimas always seem so slow on any video Iv seen of them, I thought they where up there with fastest track day cars? Are they tricky to drive so people not confident to take to the limits?
Glenn63 said:
Looks like some serious cornering speeds there compared to the other on track. Looks planted as well fair play if you’ve set all that up yourself!
As a side note why do ultimas always seem so slow on any video Iv seen of them, I thought they where up there with fastest track day cars? Are they tricky to drive so people not confident to take to the limits?
That's a good question, I don't think I've ever seen more than a couple of ultimas on track in nearly 20yrs of trackdays. As a side note why do ultimas always seem so slow on any video Iv seen of them, I thought they where up there with fastest track day cars? Are they tricky to drive so people not confident to take to the limits?
Great looking aero on your M3 - credit where it's due.
As to Ultimas,
1. They are rare and
2. You have to look at why people build them and what they built them for.
I suspect the why is that they love the look of them and fancy having such a look-at-me car.
The other why is that it is a great challenge if you have the skills.
One came to a charity track day I did a few years ago at a live RAF base.
It didn't go on track, but spent the day with the clamshell up and people, including me, admiring it.
It was owned by a young RAF lad who built it because he fancied the challenge.
He actually admitted to me that he didn't enjoy driving it much - too awkward, too hot etc.
I suspect many didn't consider what they were going to do with it once built.
TVRs are not rare, there are thousands of them. I own one, so am likely to spot one on the road.
I have not seen one since the TVR track day a few months ago.
As to Ultimas,
1. They are rare and
2. You have to look at why people build them and what they built them for.
I suspect the why is that they love the look of them and fancy having such a look-at-me car.
The other why is that it is a great challenge if you have the skills.
One came to a charity track day I did a few years ago at a live RAF base.
It didn't go on track, but spent the day with the clamshell up and people, including me, admiring it.
It was owned by a young RAF lad who built it because he fancied the challenge.
He actually admitted to me that he didn't enjoy driving it much - too awkward, too hot etc.
I suspect many didn't consider what they were going to do with it once built.
TVRs are not rare, there are thousands of them. I own one, so am likely to spot one on the road.
I have not seen one since the TVR track day a few months ago.
Glenn63 said:
As a side note why do ultimas always seem so slow on any video Iv seen of them, I thought they where up there with fastest track day cars? Are they tricky to drive so people not confident to take to the limits?
I built one years ago. TBH the build was much more of an experience than driving it. It was cramped and at 6'5" I barely fitted in it, and wearing a helmet my head was against the roof (actually the door!).I only did one trackday, at Oulton on a dark damp November morning. It had no grip whatsoever, I think the rear tyres in particular had been sitting around for a while. I spun twice coming into corners, I think just a combination of plastic tyres and big torquey motor, maybe too much rear brake bias. No chance of catching it. I tippy toed round for a few sessions and drove it home. I suspect on a warm dry day it would have been a different experience.
It was fast, 500hp and about 1,000kg, but I never gained any confidence in its handling. Certainly my driving position was very compromised in it - OK for normal road driving but not for driving on or near the limit.
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