Newbie question - Hot Track Day Attire

Newbie question - Hot Track Day Attire

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F12DDE

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168 posts

86 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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Got my first ever track day coming up next week at Bedford (was advised to do Bedford first as apparently lots of run off!) and just seen that the weather forecast is predicting close to 30 Degrees!

I've looked through the documents that were sent to me as part of booking it and it states that Long Sleeves and Trousers that cover your legs are required. (i.e no shorts and t-shirt - I understand the safety aspects to it etc.)

Just wondering if they have some leeway for this on hotter days like this or if I should expect to loose some weight through sweating on the day?!

I'll pack for both eventualities, just seeing if anyone has any experience on this as I don't have anyone else to ask - Everyone else I know that do track days do them on motorbikes - so their obviously in full leathers etc.

TIA!

Steve H

5,775 posts

202 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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Definitely no shorts. Most tracks will allow short sleeves in a covered car with original door cards etc but it’s worth having a light weight long sleeved top available just in case.

QBee

21,413 posts

151 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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Steve's right, and while they do sometimes allow a little leeway, you cannot rely on it, so go prepared. And try not to wear synthetic fabrics.

Whilst I am here:

Are you in a tin top or open top car? You need a full face helmet if the latter, but you will at least have God's airconditioning.
You will be expected to keep your windows nearly closed as well, to stop your arms flailing around outside the car and getting crushed in the rare event that you roll the car.

Enjoy, do short max 15-20 minutes sessions on track and make sure you watch your car's cooling, brakes etc through the day. Unlike on the road, you are on full throttle or full brakes m,uch of the time you are on track. And if the brakes start to feel spongy, come into the pits immediately, don't wait to see if it improves, as you may be only half a lap from boiling the brake fluid and losing all braking - been there, had a code brown turning into a bend at 120 mph.

F12DDE

Original Poster:

168 posts

86 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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Thanks for the reply guys, I'm in an enclosed car but have a full face helmet anyways so should be good, car is totally stock as well so hopefully they'll let me wear short sleeves! I'll have to make sure that I have the air con blasting!

The day is apparently in sessions anyways, so hopefully wont get too carried away with it, got some instruction booked for the day as well to help me get to grips with it all - Looking forward to it!

phazed

21,998 posts

211 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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Everything that has been said above.

Make sure you pack and wear your lightest loosest trousers. The longsleeved T-shirt needs to be thin and comfortable.

I did Thruxton yesterday in an enclosed car and wore the above and was still hot even with the windows cracked open 2 inches all round. It was only a warm day, not hot!

A slight regret that I’ve binned the air conditioning on my car.

Tommie38

803 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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If you have AC, use it. Most people are faster in a car they are not cooking in, even if they have 0.5% less power to play with*.

  • 0.5% was a figure I just made up. If you are a power and AC guru (“In my 40 years as an air conditioning expert working for all the major manufacturers, I have never read so much rubbish in all my life…”) please replace that figure with whatever you believe it to be. Love this place sometimes. biggrin

phazed

21,998 posts

211 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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I took my air-conditioning out because it wasn’t working. With hindsight I probably should have repaired it.

I have had a recent eyesight check up and it isn’t 20–20. smile

QBee

21,413 posts

151 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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phazed said:
I took my air-conditioning out because it wasn’t working. With hindsight I probably should have repaired it.

I have had a recent eyesight check up and it isn’t 20–20. smile
rofl

My late lamented Mum had 20-20 hindsight - she knew my brother and I were doing something naughty without even turning round.
She transferred those skills to her teaching career.....a much needed asset in that profession, especially in a chemistry lab

Edited by QBee on Tuesday 5th July 08:50

Cambs_Stuart

3,120 posts

91 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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The marshalls at Bedford tends to be fairly strict, which is why some people can get annoyed with them (I'm always well behaved and my car isn't too noisy, so i like them!)
But with that in mind I'd make sure you're appropriately dressed.
As above, when it's that hot your tyres, brakes, and all fluids are going to take a beating, so do short trips, make sure you do a cooldown, and keep an eye on all your fluids levels throughout the day. Don't forget power steering fluid.
Also remember to check your tyre pressures.
Bedford has a lot of heavy braking zones, so if the brakes feel a bit "funny" back off immediately. There's nothing worse than thinking "That didn't feel right" then at the next corner the pedal goes to the floor, and the car doesn't slow down...

braddo

11,253 posts

195 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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On a hot day I'll wear a t-shirt and just before I start a session, put a long sleeve buttoned shirt over the top to drive, then take it off as soon as I'm back in the pits.

Air con on track days is great. biggrin

QBee

21,413 posts

151 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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One more piece of advice - when you come back to the pits with a hot car, do NOT put the handbrake on - leave the car in gear instead.
You can warp your brake disks otherwise.

Also, what tyres are you using for the track day and how much tread depth are you starting with?

F12 Josh

820 posts

149 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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If it's the vehicle pictured on your profile then it looks like you will get plenty of fresh air to cool you down. laugh

fred bloggs

1,354 posts

207 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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Don't know how a long sleeve rather than a short sleeve will help in the event of a fire /accident , but I don't make the rules ???

F12DDE

Original Poster:

168 posts

86 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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braddo said:
On a hot day I'll wear a t-shirt and just before I start a session, put a long sleeve buttoned shirt over the top to drive, then take it off as soon as I'm back in the pits.

Air con on track days is great. biggrin
This seems like quite a good idea, I might do this. Turn up in a t-shirt and then put a button shirt over the top when driving, I assume it doesn't have to be buttoned all the way up so can have some ventilation holes!

My cars got fairly new Cup 2's on it, so should last the day (touch wood) done around 1400 Road miles on them so far, not sure on their current tread depth.

Also hoping that the brakes shouldn't fair too badly, they're carbon ceramics so hopefully they stand up to the test otherwise they were a waste of money!

As I picked my car up new in March, hoping that the OPF filters etc on it mean I don't breach noise limits, sounds pretty muted to me anyways.

Parking in gear should be fine as my car is manual! driving

The vehicle pictured on my profile would probably get similar lap times to me!

braddo

11,253 posts

195 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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F12DDE said:
Also hoping that the brakes shouldn't fair too badly, they're carbon ceramics so hopefully they stand up to the test otherwise they were a waste of money!
Proper cool-down laps are very important for ceramic brakes (from what I've read) so make sure you do at least one full lap of cool down (just hang right with your indicator on and keep an eye your mirrors).

If you have to come in suddenly because of a red flag for example, I keep going out of the pits and keep driving slowly for another couple of minutes so that the brakes still get some cooling air before parking.


F12DDE

Original Poster:

168 posts

86 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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braddo said:
Proper cool-down laps are very important for ceramic brakes (from what I've read) so make sure you do at least one full lap of cool down (just hang right with your indicator on and keep an eye your mirrors).

If you have to come in suddenly because of a red flag for example, I keep going out of the pits and keep driving slowly for another couple of minutes so that the brakes still get some cooling air before parking.
Yes, asked some owners of the same car with ceramics what they do and they said that they do a minimum of 2 cooldown laps just to be safe

JP__FOX

594 posts

242 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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I've bought some light linen trousers and a variety of long sleeve tops, some of the walking / training tops can be quite thin and breathable. I sometimes take a short sleeve top to change into when I'm out of the car but I wouldn't want to put an extra layer on to go out on track.

Also, if you've got AC then use it! Turning it off or removing it just isn't worth the difference unless you're racing.

NoBrakesWC

398 posts

56 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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If you have door cards you can wear short sleeve but still have to wear long trousers. I always take a long sleeve as well incase rules change

Steve Campbell

2,192 posts

175 months

Monday 11th July 2022
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Just take a pair of shorts and t shirt for when you are not driving.

You should only be doing 15 or 20 min stints max so just change in between.

Saturday was pretty hot at Abingdon but I had shade & only changed into cooler shorts / t shirt for the journey home (open topped car)

Throttlebody

2,466 posts

61 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Air Con and tee shirts. Luxury.

Think about all those racing at the weekend sitting in full Nomex, in stripped out tin cans, some with no decent windows, baking, while waiting in assembly to sweat it out racing.