Projekt 6 minuten
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Whilst there is a 7m 18s record to beat with a car on road tyres actually this will be a formality given the speed of the new car..
However there are two other benchmarks that I'm aiming for.
1. The fastest passenger lap
2. The fastest lap recorded on video - which I believe is currently the Bell 956 lap, 6m 40s
So I am creating Projekt 6 minuten from which the passenger will be selected.
Anyone interested in being part of this danger get in touch via the usual email address. phil@philbennett.com
However there are two other benchmarks that I'm aiming for.
1. The fastest passenger lap
2. The fastest lap recorded on video - which I believe is currently the Bell 956 lap, 6m 40s
So I am creating Projekt 6 minuten from which the passenger will be selected.
Anyone interested in being part of this danger get in touch via the usual email address. phil@philbennett.com
p490kvp said:
Whilst there is a 7m 18s record to beat with a car on road tyres actually this will be a formality given the speed of the new car..
'brave' words - best of luck - you're setting yourself up for a fall if:
a) the projekt never gets there
b) you're not as fast as you think
When will it happen?
To go 6-minute fast - you'll need good road tyres - is there a road tyres that would allow you to go that quick?
p490kvp said:
2. The fastest lap recorded on video - which I believe is currently the Bell 956 lap, 6m 40s
Is that the lap he does on the 'In-Car 956 experience'??? Last time I looked at it he was overtaken by Jacky Ickx halfway round the circuit, surely that must have been a quicker lap. No video though I presume.
Don't forget though, the fabled 6m 15s that Bellof reputedly did!!!
nords said:
I expect Phil means a 6:59 and then working down to less than 6:40...
So "Projekt Unter 7 Minuten" then?
nords said:
What are the best 'road legal' tyres for the 'ring in anyone opinion?
Of the standard "track day tyres" I think the Michelin Pilot Sport Cups stand out as the best that I've tried and/or heard about. I guess there are some other more extreme tyres out there.
Oh dear, I can't believe this has caused issues already!!
OK Projekt 6 minuten was a simple reference to the fact that the lap time will start with a 6. It is also a pretty naff title but it came up in a conversation with a mate and it stuck.
For all the doubters over viability I think am as credible a candidate to do the time as any, and the "brave" words come given I known how quick the car was that I lapped in 7m 19s and this one is more powerful, lighter, with more aero and on better tyres. So something is wrong if it can't go a second quicker.
The 6m 40s lap attempt will of course - for those that haven't guessed - be on slicks.
Then again maybe I'll suck and struggle to beat 8 minutes..
OK Projekt 6 minuten was a simple reference to the fact that the lap time will start with a 6. It is also a pretty naff title but it came up in a conversation with a mate and it stuck.
For all the doubters over viability I think am as credible a candidate to do the time as any, and the "brave" words come given I known how quick the car was that I lapped in 7m 19s and this one is more powerful, lighter, with more aero and on better tyres. So something is wrong if it can't go a second quicker.
The 6m 40s lap attempt will of course - for those that haven't guessed - be on slicks.
Then again maybe I'll suck and struggle to beat 8 minutes..
p490kvp said:
The 6m 40s lap attempt will of course - for those that haven't guessed - be on slicks.
Out of curiosity - what do you think is the absolute limit for current road-legal tyres (in terms of a lap time)? Or maybe you don't feel it is a limiting factor (I guess you do or you wouldn't be looking to do the really quick laps on slicks).
Are there any details of this "uber-car" yet available?
phatgixer said:
MrOnTheRopes said:
Good luck with this Phil. Just don't use Angus for the passenger lap... with his bulk you'll never crack 8 mins!! haha
Elliot (from BM3W).
But I can show him the correct line.....
Is this the line you're talking about Angus?
PS Phil, I'm behind you! You'll do 6:xx without a problem so the original title seems good to me!
>> Edited by nords on Monday 8th August 16:17
Joe911 said:
The 6m 40s lap attempt will of course - for those that haven't guessed - be on slicks.
Out of curiosity - what do you think is the absolute limit for current road-legal tyres (in terms of a lap time)? Or maybe you don't feel it is a limiting factor (I guess you do or you wouldn't be looking to do the really quick laps on slicks).
Are there any details of this "uber-car" yet available?
I think it depends on the car - the big reason cars like the Radical SR3, etc were not given a warm welcome from the Germans is that they are able to use a road tyre better because they only weigh 500-600kgs where as a 996 is over 1200kgs.
I think when I did my 7m 19s Radical used a Dunlop D98J tyre which was not too bad and looking at pictures of the Donkey that did 7m 18s that too used a Dunlop tyre but the newer pattern - not sure about construction or compound.
No doubt about it a pure racing slick will offer a big advantage because of the greater choice of construction and compounds.
Ultimate time on track day type tyres is really the times we see now - I'm expecting the new car to dip into the high 6m 50s. The talk when I did 7m 19s was that a sub 7m lap would be really easy but that comes from people who haven't lapped close to these times. I can promise you that finding 20seconds from a time that was already pretty near the limit will be tough - but I think possible.
Can't tell you about the car yet - other than it has nearly 1000bhp/tonne. Nice..
... Thanks for reminding me of that Kier...
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