Solution to the trailer problem

Solution to the trailer problem

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Z4MCSL

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548 posts

90 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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So ive been trying to qork out how to get a trailer for a while. Main concern is my car breaking or being crashed at the track.

I have no real space for a trailer so I've been looking into hiring etc.

However I recently started looking at traciday insurance too and realised you can get recovery cover for track days. I haven't checked but I would assume that RAc/Aa might not pick you up from a track but if you could pay just for recovery from a track then this seems to solve the problem

If I breakdown or crash I'll just get towed home?! Does anyone else do this?

I do appreciate part of the pain would be the wait to get picked up but I'm not too bothered about that

Z4MCSL

Original Poster:

548 posts

90 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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Just checked and I see AA actually specifically cover track days so I can probably close this thread here now 🤣

E-bmw

9,976 posts

159 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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I think you will find all will pick you up from a track venue, what if you were at a race meeting as a spectator & couldn't start the car afterwards, it is just the same.

Steve H

5,780 posts

202 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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Isn’t breakdown cover for breakdown but not for accidents?

AA are generally pretty good for the breakdown part but make sure you have a copy of their regs with you as not all their patrols know their own rules wink .

Steve H

5,780 posts

202 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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E-bmw said:
I think you will find all will pick you up from a track venue, what if you were at a race meeting as a spectator & couldn't start the car afterwards, it is just the same.
RAC and others have been known to refuse to recover from trackdays if they know/suspect that the car failed on track.

brillomaster

1,396 posts

177 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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RAC specifically don't cover breakdowns whilst doing trackdays, AA specifically do.

Neither will cover crash damage though.

I used to have personal AA cover, but since ive switched to greenflag vehicle specific cover, my boxster currently has no breakdown solution. Though, if the worst happens, ill probably join AA on the spot.

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,713 posts

72 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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The likes of the AA, RAC etc will often do a tax and MOT check on the vehicle before providing you any service on the day. So if your car is not road legal as such don't be surprised if you get turned away for this reason.

Also if a patrol turns up and you're sat there with quite obviously a track day car at the race track, again they may not choose to turn a blind eye to it.

The same thing happens with taxis, the owner often doesn't declare the policy is for a business vehicle and relies on personal cover to get him home. It is not unknown for the breakdown club to ask the rescue/recovery patrol if there is any sign of it being a private hire style vehicle.

E-bmw

9,976 posts

159 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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OK, I stand partially corrected, although I would be surprised if they are the only one that do.

I have certainly heard of people getting a crash damaged car "dropped up the road" by the on track recovery team for a few beer tokens before, to make it less obvious.

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,713 posts

72 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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E-bmw said:
I have certainly heard of people getting a crash damaged car "dropped up the road" by the on track recovery team for a few beer tokens before, to make it less obvious.
Yes it's quite surprising how many 'performance' cars end up in the ditches on the roads outside Donington Park...

1781cc

592 posts

101 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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I can confirm first hand from my experience at Bedford that the AA have no problem picking up cars from a circuit as long as its a track day and not a race you are participating in. ie, if you stack it in the 750MC that's a big no, otherwise its all good.

As an aside, I sold my daily car and bought a pickup truck so I could tow and its by far the better move for me, additional choice of tyres, tools, spares, food, loads more useful stuff at the track. And when you are up at somewhere like Blyton and its pissing down, somewhere warm to sit between runs.




Edited by 1781cc on Sunday 2nd January 14:38


Edited by 1781cc on Sunday 2nd January 14:38

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,684 posts

230 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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E-bmw said:
I have certainly heard of people getting a crash damaged car "dropped up the road" by the on track recovery team for a few beer tokens before, to make it less obvious.
this is one of those 'pub talk' stories. I've never seen it happen in 25 years and I don't believe for a minute that the hired in recovery operator for MSV would be even allowed to think about dropping you off in a verge somewhere.

it's just not true.

It the car is potentially drivable then if you are that way inclined you might park it in a bush or something, but the police are going to want to know why a car has been abandoned and then it all gets a bit messy.

E-bmw

9,976 posts

159 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
E-bmw said:
I have certainly heard of people getting a crash damaged car "dropped up the road" by the on track recovery team for a few beer tokens before, to make it less obvious.
it's just not true.
I know I am a pedantic git, but that is an extremely categorical statement that you would need to be present at every single UK TD ever to back up. wink

Likely or not, I have (anecdotally) heard the story so many times now, that I would have to say, I think it is feasible but ask me if it has happened & I would say I am 50/50.

dhutch

15,285 posts

204 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
this is one of those 'pub talk' stories. I've never seen it happen in 25 years and I don't believe for a minute that the hired in recovery operator for MSV would be even allowed to think about dropping you off in a verge somewhere.

it's just not true.
I can imagine it happening a couple decades ago. I wasn't there to remember it, but first hand stories from my parents and other close family members, definitely thing like happened.

dhutch

15,285 posts

204 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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What I certainly have seen, is someone taking a wheel off on a lampost at an autotest, group effort to get the car to side of the road that ran past said carpark while the others packed away the event and left.

Happened it was the last run of the day, as some locals had managed to totally ignore the perimeter barrier, motorsports is dangerous keep out signs, and walk into the coarse mid run. Hence the car got a re-run, which then results in a three wheeler.

That did happen, only about five years ago. Not bribes required as far as I know!

iguana

7,056 posts

267 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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Certainly happens with breakdowns, well not on the recovery truck thing, but personally seen it at Cadwell & Bedford, towed out by someone on a tow rope a couple of miles away.

phazed

21,999 posts

211 months

Sunday 2nd January 2022
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How often do you crash or break down!

That said, I use a trailer more for convenience. Arrive the night before, no early start, somewhere to use inbetween track outings. For that reason for me, recommended.




Derek182

166 posts

87 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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I've twice been recovered from trackdays having broken down.
Years ago at Silverstone I had an electrical fault out on track in my TVR Tasmin (not a massive surprise) was recovered to a public car park and the AA took me home.
More recently I had a massive oil leak in a Porsche 944 at Cadwell, managed to get it a few miles up the road and again got recovered home.
Another TVR day at Cadwell, probably 25 years ago now, someone crashed his nearly new uninsured for track Chimaera over the Mountain, phoned the dealer he had bought it from who came and collected it, plan was to tell the insurer it was a road accident so the customer wouldn't be out of pocket and the dealer would get the repair work! Never heard but assume they got away with it!

PJ_Parsons

143 posts

145 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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I've only had one break down at a track day and that was a few months back. I never expected my breakdown company GEM Assist, to recover the car, yet they did. I told them what the car had been doing and they seemed fine with that. The car was taken back home about 25 miles away.

Jamescrs

4,874 posts

72 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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I have seen the AA recover cars from Cadwell before but I do seem to recall they will cover a breakdown but not a crash on track.

I know crashes are rare but I have had one myself at Oulton on a wet February day, spin off and hit a tyre wall, thankfully the car wasn't too damaged and was drivable after I was pulled off the grass and back onto the tarmac.

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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There are dozens of private recovery services around who will pick you up from a circuit and take your car home, you don’t have to use AA, RAC etc. Yes you’ll pay a fair bit of you need one but you could also buy an AA policy that you never use.