Track day pads for a Boxster 987.1?

[phazed]

Taking the boxcart out for an airing in a couple of weeks at Cadwell Park.

At present have Brembo road pads, (no idea what though). Used these at Combe for a first outing in this car and they performed faultlessly.

Don't want to push my luck so want to have a track biased set on the bench ready to go in for the TD.

I need to ideally order them tomorrow, (as away for 2 weeks) so any recommendations?

I have used Ferodo DS2500 on TVRs in the past without any complaints apart from a little squealing..

[E-bmw]

Ferodo DS1.11

Pagid RS 29

There will be others along shortly.

[iguana]

I wouldn't fit ds2500s on a wheel barrow tbh, if you go gentle just stick with OEM genuine pads, if you want to go hard go pagid rs29 etc, Ds1.11 are almost as good but to squeal in road use. Oh flush with new decent fluid too.

[phazed]

I changed the brake fluid for high temperature fluid just before I did Combe a couple of months ago.

As said previously, the road Brembo pads that were fitted were fine. I didn’t go absolutely mad as I don’t usually use this car as a track day car. It stood in for my Skoda as the clutch was slipping! The Porsche performed and felt so absolutely brilliant Bella decided to use it again at Cadwell Park, a proper track. Are use the Skoda last Monday at Lydden Hill which was chaotic to say the least and I was so glad that I was in the Skoda!

Thanks for the recommendations. Are usually use Cambridge motorsport for the supply of pads so I will see what they have in stock.

I read somewhere that Porsche offer an alternative sports pad. Not sure if this is true, I have asked a friend who works in the parts department at Porsche to look into this tomorrow and hopefully will find out what that is all about.

[ecain63]

iguana said:

I wouldn't fit ds2500s on a wheel barrow tbh, if you go gentle just stick with OEM genuine pads, if you want to go hard go pagid rs29 etc, Ds1.11 are almost as good but to squeal in road use. Oh flush with new decent fluid too.

DS2500 are what come with the Lotus Exige 410/430 as standard..... with AP J-Hook discs. I had absolutely no issues with my oem set of DS2500 but when I got the end of life with them the internet said I should try PFC08 for better braking / bite. All that happened with the PFC pads was my discs got toasted and £3000 later I'm back with DS2500 again...... and happily having no issues. I thought I'd notice the lack of bite at Silverstone last week but I really didn't.

When switching to a more bitey pad, make sure you consider what effect it'll have on the discs. My DS2500s might wear out at a quicker rate than the PFC, but at £300 for a full set it's still only 10% the cost of a set of discs.

[NardoRS]

Another vote for DS1:11 or Pagid RS29; I slightly prefer DS1:11 as I find the modulation better and the pagid RS29 are a bit “wooden” ...but last longer than the Ferodo.
I’ve stuck with DS2500 on the back of my TTRS for 3 years and they work well.

[E-bmw]

NardoRS said:

Another vote for DS1:11 or Pagid RS29; I slightly prefer DS1:11 as I find the modulation better and the pagid RS29 are a bit “wooden” ...but last longer than the Ferodo.

I have to admit I prefer the DS1.11 for the same reason & used to get a full year out of either, so can't comment on longevity comparisons, although each would get 2 years out of a set of discs on them, so don't support what was said previously about disc life.

[phazed]

After a few enquiries, went for the pad that I know and trust, DS2500's.

I made sure that the callipers where clean and brushed on a little Copperslip on the edges and backs of the pads.

Did Cadwell Park last Friday, on track a lot with plenty of braking from flat out as you would expect.

Not one squeal and the pads performed magnificently all day.

BTW, cost was about £340 all in delivered from Cambridge Motorsport.

Thanks for your input guys.

[nickfrog]

That's good to hear. In fairness Cadwell is not very hard on brakes, there are only 2 big(ish) stops as the rest is pretty easy on the anchors. It would be interesting to see how the pads cope with a more demanding track, you should probably be OK on sensibly short stints.

I am really pleased with DS1. 11 (no squeal luckily) but if the 2500 worked then they're probably a safer bet for the road.

[E-bmw]

phazed said:

After a few enquiries, went for the pad that I know and trust, DS2500's.

I made sure that the callipers where clean and brushed on a little Copperslip on the edges and backs of the pads.

Did Cadwell Park last Friday, on track a lot with plenty of braking from flat out as you would expect.

Not one squeal and the pads performed magnificently all day.

BTW, cost was about £340 all in delivered from Cambridge Motorsport.

Thanks for your input guys.

FYI, DS1.11 are not normally much more & last SOOOOO Much longer with better bite if/when you find the DS2500 the limiting factor.

DS2500 would still be fine on the rear.

[phazed]

I shall keep that in mind.

Just changing back to road wheels and as my discs are like new, no ridges or lips, I put the road pads back in.

The DS2500's show practically no sign of wear so the comment on Cadwell being easy on brakes must be true!

Will save the DS's for another day as the Boxster gets 99% road use, Will be using my TD Skoda for Mallory next month, DS2500 shod as well......

[E-bmw]

nickfrog said:

In fairness Cadwell is not very hard on brakes, there are only 2 big(ish) stops as the rest is pretty easy on the anchors.

In fairness I don't 100% agree with that, the top of the back straight, the downhill brake into Mansfield, and the entrance to the mountain are all hard brakes if you want them to be, then there is the entrance into the hairpin, which is also a fairly hard brake & 3 of those are fairly close together.

But then it is completely dependent on the driver whether they are hard braking zones or not, so, yes, but, no, but.

[nickfrog]

E-bmw said:

In fairness I don't 100% agree with that, the top of the back straight, the downhill brake into Mansfield, and the entrance to the mountain are all hard brakes if you want them to be, then there is the entrance into the hairpin, which is also a fairly hard brake & 3 of those are fairly close together.

But then it is completely dependent on the driver whether they are hard braking zones or not, so, yes, but, no, but.

Yes fair enough, it's more of a medium circuit on brakes you're right, and probably 3 hardish stops with the steep downhill bit. Although end of the back straight is more of "hard dab" (!) for me.

[phazed]

That left at the end of the back straight I think I started off taking it at about 70 and ended up at the end of the day going round at about 90. Unbelievable how fast you can take it. Definitely tightened my underwear before increasing the speed later in the day. I’m sure you can go around faster, some guy saying that he can take it at 105 but I wasn’t going to try and prove him correct !

[E-bmw]

phazed said:

That left at the end of the back straight I think I started off taking it at about 70 and ended up at the end of the day going round at about 90. Unbelievable how fast you can take it. Definitely tightened my underwear before increasing the speed later in the day. I’m sure you can go around faster, some guy saying that he can take it at 105 but I wasn’t going to try and prove him correct !

That is Coppice & is flat out in a decent handling car, I too took it at 70 on my first day & then got some tuition.

I normally (except haven't been in a year!) take it around 105/108 in both previous & current TD cars, e36 328 & r53 S.

[phazed]

Maybe next time

[Wh00sher]

E-bmw said:

That is Coppice & is flat out in a decent handling car, I too took it at 70 on my first day & then got some tuition.

I normally (except haven't been in a year!) take it around 105/108 in both previous & current TD cars, e36 328 & r53 S.

I struggle to get the right entry speed. I'm hitting 125 before lifting and turning in then getting back on the power.


Vmin is around 109 but it's one of those "arrgghh, I could have taken that faster" corners

As said, it's medium hard on the brakes, end of Park, Mansfield, entry to mountain then hairpin are all from decent speeds in quick succession.

Ran ds2500 once, never again. I now run Raysbestos ST45 but also had excellent results with Carbon Lorraine RC6

Edited by Wh00sher on Monday 13th September 19:38

[phazed]

Really, why is that?

[Wh00sher]

Suffered from vibration under braking which I subsequently found is common with ds2500, then they crumbled and simply didn't last.

[phazed]

Weird. Smooth as silk in the Boxster. Perfect condition when I removed them.

Used them in my old 5.5 chimaera, 5-6 sets and never a problem. Many TDS and sprints.

Maybe you had a duff set?