Boots better than shoes for heal & toe

Boots better than shoes for heal & toe

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handbraketurn

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1,372 posts

173 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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brillomaster

1,397 posts

177 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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What problem are you having with heel & toe? Boots would provide more ankle support, but arguably have less flexibility to twist and articulate to get a good blip. And both shoes and boots have the same sole, essentially so no difference there.

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

142 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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Footwear isn't going to make any difference to your heel and toe (which is rarely actually using the heel fwiw)

'racing' footwear usually has a thinner and more sensitive sole, and a narrower platform, helps with sensitivity, and small footwells. I can't honestly see why you'd need ankle support driving a car - I think the boot format is more likely for fire protection than any support.

LennyM1984

764 posts

75 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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I find heel and toe more enjoyable in a thin soled shoe (I have some very naff looking Puma Driftcats) but as others have said, the shoe itself won't make much of a difference to the technique and I'm not really sure how/why boots would help (I'm not saying that they don't but simply that I personally can't see why they would).

The reason I like a thin soled shoe is purely because you can feel the right position and pressure on the brake pedal easier. I often wear a pair of NB trainers (the type somebody in the 70s may have run a race in) and they are technically fine but feel a bit too cushioned for precise pedal control.

brillomaster

1,397 posts

177 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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LennyM1984 said:
I find heel and toe more enjoyable in a thin soled shoe (I have some very naff looking Puma Driftcats) but as others have said, the shoe itself won't make much of a difference to the technique and I'm not really sure how/why boots would help (I'm not saying that they don't but simply that I personally can't see why they would).

The reason I like a thin soled shoe is purely because you can feel the right position and pressure on the brake pedal easier. I often wear a pair of NB trainers (the type somebody in the 70s may have run a race in) and they are technically fine but feel a bit too cushioned for precise pedal control.
Puma drift cats FTW! Just ordered my 4th pair, love them!

teeCup

198 posts

169 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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brillomaster said:
LennyM1984 said:
I find heel and toe more enjoyable in a thin soled shoe (I have some very naff looking Puma Driftcats) but as others have said, the shoe itself won't make much of a difference to the technique and I'm not really sure how/why boots would help (I'm not saying that they don't but simply that I personally can't see why they would).

The reason I like a thin soled shoe is purely because you can feel the right position and pressure on the brake pedal easier. I often wear a pair of NB trainers (the type somebody in the 70s may have run a race in) and they are technically fine but feel a bit too cushioned for precise pedal control.
Puma drift cats FTW! Just ordered my 4th pair, love them!
Another vote for the Driftcat disco slippers here, great driving shoes. I’ve had mine for about 15 years now as they’re so embarrassing they only get used in the car for track days and even if I’m nipping to the gents, I’ll swap shoes rather than be seen in them!

MOTK

324 posts

141 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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Much prefer my sparco 'fashion' shoes than various boots I have, more ankle movement, same thin sole.
https://uk.sparcofashion.com/product/sparco-imola-...
can usually be had for £40 or so in their seemingly continual 'sales'.

ukkid35

6,285 posts

180 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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upsidedownmark said:
'racing' footwear usually has a thinner and more sensitive sole, and a narrower platform, helps with sensitivity, and small footwells
The problem is that it looks really naff getting out of your car at a service station wearing Sparcos - even though I regularly do that myself

The way around this is to wear Converse or similarly styled boots that are skinny enough to make the most of a cramped footwell

braddo

11,256 posts

195 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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Do the sparco fashion shoes and the drift cats have a stiff sole?

Converse and similar shoes are good for their slim size and feel but the soft sole is bad for braking as your foot just wraps around the pedal when pressing hard; a more rigid sole (at least laterally) that is also thin gives better feel and also power/control particularly for cars with no brake servo.

The difference is like in cycling and the contrast between clip-in cycling shoes versus normal trainers.

MOTK

324 posts

141 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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Can't speak for the other but the Sparco is fairly stiff, I don't notice much difference to my FIA reg boots in that regard. I only wear the boots when I have to, racing.
Plus I'm quite ok with looking like a southern ponce, comes naturally I guess. Rather that than drive with a pair of converse tbh, aren't those soles like 1" thick? spin

braddo

11,256 posts

195 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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The converse sole is very thin - guessing 5-7 mm. The white strip around the outside isn’t the sole height smile

NGRhodes

1,291 posts

79 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Why do you need/want ankle support for driving ?

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Edited by NGRhodes on Saturday 13th March 12:15

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

262 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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handbraketurn said:
Boots better than shoes for heal & toe
What kind of injury is your toe carrying?



brillomaster

1,397 posts

177 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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I used to drive in dunlop green flash, which i think are technically tennis shoes! laugh

But i dont find puma driftcats embarrassing, mine are just plain black with black laces, pretty subtle. Certainly dont look out of place on a trackday, nearly everyone is wearing something designed for driving.

Or it might be that i dont really care what people think of my footwear choices, i wears what i likes!

blue al

1,036 posts

166 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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brillomaster said:
I used to drive in dunlop green flash, which i think are technically tennis shoes! laugh

But i dont find puma driftcats embarrassing, mine are just plain black with black laces, pretty subtle. Certainly dont look out of place on a trackday, nearly everyone is wearing something designed for driving.

Or it might be that i dont really care what people think of my footwear choices, i wears what i likes!
Hi-tec squash for me, thin soles after 10 years, gutted I had to buy new again last year.

Chris Sideways

429 posts

259 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Definitely helps having racing boots/shoes as they have grip on the side allow you grip on the throttle pedal especially if you go for a stab at it like I do 🤣😜

https://youtu.be/NNugHrP7evo