Quick Cars that are rarely seen on track days
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Was just watching an old episode of wheeler dealers with an Rx7 turbo. That was a really quick car back in the day but don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone using one on track days.
It’s one of a few quick cars that rarely ever turn up at track days.
Same with Sierra Cosworths, even 10+ years ago when they were affordable you’d rarely ever seen one at a track day (excluding ford only days). A seriously quick car that’s good fun to take on a circuit - but you hardly ever see them at track days.
Older 911’s pre 993, again should be great fun on track but rare to see.
What other quick cars are rarely seen being used on track ?
It’s one of a few quick cars that rarely ever turn up at track days.
Same with Sierra Cosworths, even 10+ years ago when they were affordable you’d rarely ever seen one at a track day (excluding ford only days). A seriously quick car that’s good fun to take on a circuit - but you hardly ever see them at track days.
Older 911’s pre 993, again should be great fun on track but rare to see.
What other quick cars are rarely seen being used on track ?
I'd imagine that from your examples the majority of those cars will now be owned by people who treasure them and will not abuse them on track or people only interested in "investment" potential.
That and there is nothing glorious about taking your mint Porsche 911 on a track day and getting speared by a £500 Pug 106.
That and there is nothing glorious about taking your mint Porsche 911 on a track day and getting speared by a £500 Pug 106.
RX-7's are pretty complex cars, the only two I've seen on track was someone doing their first trackday so it was being driven cautiously and the other was a time attack car that kept getting flagged for noise.
I shared a pit garage at donington once with a bunch of brummies who rocked up with a bunch of 'nice' ford cosworths, they spent most of the day fixing em and the rest of it welding a silencer onto a sapphire. The one time I was out on track with them they weren't going very fast at all and I'm hardly what you'd call a quick driver.
Saying that I just had my current car resprayed and everyones going, oh you aren't going to track it now are you? I am because even though the car is still a modified road car aside from doing trackdays I don't do much else with it. Aside from some roadtrips it would just sit and do nothing. Day to day driving is just frustrating anyway and I find carshows dull as ditchwater. So if I don't track the damn thing I might as well get rid of it.
I shared a pit garage at donington once with a bunch of brummies who rocked up with a bunch of 'nice' ford cosworths, they spent most of the day fixing em and the rest of it welding a silencer onto a sapphire. The one time I was out on track with them they weren't going very fast at all and I'm hardly what you'd call a quick driver.
Saying that I just had my current car resprayed and everyones going, oh you aren't going to track it now are you? I am because even though the car is still a modified road car aside from doing trackdays I don't do much else with it. Aside from some roadtrips it would just sit and do nothing. Day to day driving is just frustrating anyway and I find carshows dull as ditchwater. So if I don't track the damn thing I might as well get rid of it.
rallycross said:
Was just watching an old episode of wheeler dealers with an Rx7 turbo. That was a really quick car back in the day but don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone using one on track days.
It’s one of a few quick cars that rarely ever turn up at track days.
Same with Sierra Cosworths, even 10+ years ago when they were affordable you’d rarely ever seen one at a track day (excluding ford only days). A seriously quick car that’s good fun to take on a circuit - but you hardly ever see them at track days.
Older 911’s pre 993, again should be great fun on track but rare to see.
What other quick cars are rarely seen being used on track ?
I do a fair few in my 964, although not any that have £500 cars whizzing round.It’s one of a few quick cars that rarely ever turn up at track days.
Same with Sierra Cosworths, even 10+ years ago when they were affordable you’d rarely ever seen one at a track day (excluding ford only days). A seriously quick car that’s good fun to take on a circuit - but you hardly ever see them at track days.
Older 911’s pre 993, again should be great fun on track but rare to see.
What other quick cars are rarely seen being used on track ?
NNH said:
It's about 20 years since I last saw a Lotus Carlton on a track
Just for you then. (Not mine)
IdiotRace said:
Saying that I just had my current car resprayed and everyones going, oh you aren't going to track it now are you? I am because even though the car is still a modified road car aside from doing trackdays I don't do much else with it. Aside from some roadtrips it would just sit and do nothing. Day to day driving is just frustrating anyway and I find carshows dull as ditchwater. So if I don't track the damn thing I might as well get rid of it.
Hear, hear. In about 2006ish I used to track an rx7 shared with a friend, at the time it made loads of sense. If you crashed it one with a blown engine was £2k. 1300kg, 350bhp with some minor tweaks. Reliable if you spent some cash on cooling and made the turbos none sequential. Good weight distribution and double wishbones all round with an lsd made for loads of fun. Now as above the values have gone up and there is newer stuff available without the issues of being 25 years old.
The RX7, Lotus Carlton, and the like were quick, back in the day, but nowadays there are cars with far more grunt and Megane’s, 140i’s and Honda’s that can lap much faster. What you see out there depends on the circuit. I’ve noticed that Donington, often brings out real exotics like McLaren’s that you would rarely see at Oulton or Cadwell.
Still going round in my E30 but don't see many of them now; the exception being BMW car club days where there's normally a gaggle of them.
Most around these days are either historic racers or are running more modern 24v lumps. Plenty quick enough to keep up with newer cars with modern tyres and suspension - pretty confident mine will do sub-2 minutes round Oulton in the right hands.
Most around these days are either historic racers or are running more modern 24v lumps. Plenty quick enough to keep up with newer cars with modern tyres and suspension - pretty confident mine will do sub-2 minutes round Oulton in the right hands.
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