How to stop hazards flashing under heavy braking?

How to stop hazards flashing under heavy braking?

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Niffty951

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2,342 posts

234 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Gents,

My google skills are failing me. What types of sensor are used to activate the indicators/hazards under heavy braking and/or how do I stop it happening?

If it's a pressure signal from the brake lines can it simply be snipped (looped) or can this be turned off as an option in the ECU usually?

There's nothing more annoying to me than driving around with the hazards on uncontrollably.

My car is an MX-5 ND but this must now happen on many cars!

85Carrera

3,503 posts

243 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Why don’t you try modulating your braking instead?

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

169 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Pull the indicators /hazard light fuse out ?

They can't work with a broken circuit ,surely.

InitialDave

12,169 posts

125 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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85Carrera said:
Why don’t you try modulating your braking instead?
Because he's on a track day, and wants to properly haul on the brakes? I believe these systems are triggered by level of braking, not just sharp application.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

124 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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85Carrera said:
Why don’t you try modulating your braking instead?
On track, you can trigger ABS easily.

Also, on my particular car (BMW) and many others, it is done at a deceleration rate, not ABS triggering or a given brake pressure.

You can usually code it out via OBD with a suitable piece of software.

nickfrog

21,762 posts

223 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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85Carrera said:
Why don’t you try modulating your braking instead?
If you modulate so much that the lights don't come on then it's not really track driving anymore. They come on way before ABS being triggered.

Niffty951

Original Poster:

2,342 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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Thanks for the OBD trick I'll get on ebay and find a good cable and software package for the car. I hoped it would be possible (like the seatbelt warning) but wasn't sure if I'd be wasting my time/not accessible.

nickfrog said:
85Carrera said:
Why don’t you try modulating your braking instead?
If you modulate so much that the lights don't come on then it's not really track driving anymore. They come on way before ABS being triggered.
As per this. The light flashing is triggered long before ABS intervention and even if you apply the brakes gently initially (to settle the car) and then increase pressure as the nose dips.

It seems to be pedal pressure related as you can stop sharply on cold brakes but as they warm up and you need to apply more pressure you trigger it more frequently.

Niffty951

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2,342 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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Pericoloso said:
Pull the indicators /hazard light fuse out ?

They can't work with a broken circuit ,surely.
Also possible but I'd like to keep the indicators if possible.

nickfrog

21,762 posts

223 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Yes and it would be pericoloso to not have indicators working on a TD anyway, always useful on a cool down lap or to help overtakes etc...

hilts uk

80 posts

96 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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This happens on the Alfa Guila QF on track. Its not ABS - but rapid deceleration that triggers it. But it only happens in normal or dynamic driving modes - in race mode where traction stability etc are switched off this feature is disabled.

uttanutta12

11 posts

78 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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My 2006 Fiesta ST had this feature. Was just on the MFD menu to turn it off.

As said, likely to require coding through the OBD, whatever mazdas version of VCDS is kind of thing.