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The TVR car club holds an annual track day for members.
Some members asked if it could be held next year somewhere nearer to them than the back of beyond.
The organisers pointed out that anywhere other than the back of beyond is considerably more expensive, so much so that it was prohibitively expensive.
The back of beyond, our current venue, is Cadwell Park in Lincolnshire.
It also happens to be a fabulous track.
Hope this helps
Some members asked if it could be held next year somewhere nearer to them than the back of beyond.
The organisers pointed out that anywhere other than the back of beyond is considerably more expensive, so much so that it was prohibitively expensive.
The back of beyond, our current venue, is Cadwell Park in Lincolnshire.
It also happens to be a fabulous track.
Hope this helps
QBee said:
The TVR car club holds an annual track day for members.
Some members asked if it could be held next year somewhere nearer to them than the back of beyond.
The organisers pointed out that anywhere other than the back of beyond is considerably more expensive, so much so that it was prohibitively expensive.
The back of beyond, our current venue, is Cadwell Park in Lincolnshire.
It also happens to be a fabulous track.
Hope this helps
Thanks QbeeSome members asked if it could be held next year somewhere nearer to them than the back of beyond.
The organisers pointed out that anywhere other than the back of beyond is considerably more expensive, so much so that it was prohibitively expensive.
The back of beyond, our current venue, is Cadwell Park in Lincolnshire.
It also happens to be a fabulous track.
Hope this helps
I run a Zcars owners club so there will be quite a few RWD Classic minis and a couple of Mk1 RWD Fiat 500,s maybe we could do a joint event with another club just an idea
I researched this myself a couple of years ago and found the circuits not keen to encourage private bookings.
Blyton took the time to explain it (when I turned up in person), and said they had had too many issues with people paying a deposit and then having to cancel due to lack of interest.
It also gave them problems with their insurance cover.
My local region of the TVR Car Club does an annual event at Blyton in early August where there cannot be more than about 20 cars per session. The cost per member is around £90 per session, morning or afternoon. So that might be a possibility for you - it is just north of Gainsborough, north Lincs. Not a bad circuit, and it would seem to be a lot cheaper than many. This might have changed since the original owner sold the track to Ginetta last year.
Cadwell needed about 70 cars to be booked to keep the cost to TVRCC members to £155 per car, so at a guess the total cost must have been around £8,000 to £10,000 for them to break even (given that they would have some admin and insurance costs on top of the circuit fee). Donington, Silverstone, Brands etc are a hell of a lot more expensive. I will try to dig out the thread where the TVRCC organiser explained this.
May I politely suggest that if you can rustle up 10-30 entrants, you contact the circuit of your choice and discuss a block booking with a discount on a regular track day? That way each member makes his own booking by phoning the circuit, and gets his own discount, and you are not left holding the baby for several thousand quid? It's amazing how many "dead keen in theory" members never book. Indeed, if your members book far enough ahead and in enough numbers, you may even achieve your target of your own track day, without the financial risk.
Blyton took the time to explain it (when I turned up in person), and said they had had too many issues with people paying a deposit and then having to cancel due to lack of interest.
It also gave them problems with their insurance cover.
My local region of the TVR Car Club does an annual event at Blyton in early August where there cannot be more than about 20 cars per session. The cost per member is around £90 per session, morning or afternoon. So that might be a possibility for you - it is just north of Gainsborough, north Lincs. Not a bad circuit, and it would seem to be a lot cheaper than many. This might have changed since the original owner sold the track to Ginetta last year.
Cadwell needed about 70 cars to be booked to keep the cost to TVRCC members to £155 per car, so at a guess the total cost must have been around £8,000 to £10,000 for them to break even (given that they would have some admin and insurance costs on top of the circuit fee). Donington, Silverstone, Brands etc are a hell of a lot more expensive. I will try to dig out the thread where the TVRCC organiser explained this.
May I politely suggest that if you can rustle up 10-30 entrants, you contact the circuit of your choice and discuss a block booking with a discount on a regular track day? That way each member makes his own booking by phoning the circuit, and gets his own discount, and you are not left holding the baby for several thousand quid? It's amazing how many "dead keen in theory" members never book. Indeed, if your members book far enough ahead and in enough numbers, you may even achieve your target of your own track day, without the financial risk.
QBee said:
I researched this myself a couple of years ago and found the circuits not keen to encourage private bookings.
Blyton took the time to explain it (when I turned up in person), and said they had had too many issues with people paying a deposit and then having to cancel due to lack of interest.
It also gave them problems with their insurance cover.
My local region of the TVR Car Club does an annual event at Blyton in early August where there cannot be more than about 20 cars per session. The cost per member is around £90 per session, morning or afternoon. So that might be a possibility for you - it is just north of Gainsborough, north Lincs. Not a bad circuit, and it would seem to be a lot cheaper than many. This might have changed since the original owner sold the track to Ginetta last year.
Cadwell needed about 70 cars to be booked to keep the cost to TVRCC members to £155 per car, so at a guess the total cost must have been around £8,000 to £10,000 for them to break even (given that they would have some admin and insurance costs on top of the circuit fee). Donington, Silverstone, Brands etc are a hell of a lot more expensive. I will try to dig out the thread where the TVRCC organiser explained this.
May I politely suggest that if you can rustle up 10-30 entrants, you contact the circuit of your choice and discuss a block booking with a discount on a regular track day? That way each member makes his own booking by phoning the circuit, and gets his own discount, and you are not left holding the baby for several thousand quid? It's amazing how many "dead keen in theory" members never book. Indeed, if your members book far enough ahead and in enough numbers, you may even achieve your target of your own track day, without the financial risk.
I have just got off the phone to Goodwood and not as much as I thought plus the db level is 105 for a quite a few days year, for the circuit for private hire for the day with lunch for 30 people, and paddock access for the cars March to October 9,000 plus vat then Nov to Feb 5,000 plus vat just booked up this year they have 1 day left. they recommend max 40 cars.Blyton took the time to explain it (when I turned up in person), and said they had had too many issues with people paying a deposit and then having to cancel due to lack of interest.
It also gave them problems with their insurance cover.
My local region of the TVR Car Club does an annual event at Blyton in early August where there cannot be more than about 20 cars per session. The cost per member is around £90 per session, morning or afternoon. So that might be a possibility for you - it is just north of Gainsborough, north Lincs. Not a bad circuit, and it would seem to be a lot cheaper than many. This might have changed since the original owner sold the track to Ginetta last year.
Cadwell needed about 70 cars to be booked to keep the cost to TVRCC members to £155 per car, so at a guess the total cost must have been around £8,000 to £10,000 for them to break even (given that they would have some admin and insurance costs on top of the circuit fee). Donington, Silverstone, Brands etc are a hell of a lot more expensive. I will try to dig out the thread where the TVRCC organiser explained this.
May I politely suggest that if you can rustle up 10-30 entrants, you contact the circuit of your choice and discuss a block booking with a discount on a regular track day? That way each member makes his own booking by phoning the circuit, and gets his own discount, and you are not left holding the baby for several thousand quid? It's amazing how many "dead keen in theory" members never book. Indeed, if your members book far enough ahead and in enough numbers, you may even achieve your target of your own track day, without the financial risk.
Milney said:
I have just got off the phone to Goodwood and not as much as I thought plus the db level is 105 for a quite a few days year, for the circuit for private hire for the day with lunch for 30 people, and paddock access for the cars March to October 9,000 plus vat then Nov to Feb 5,000 plus vat just booked up this year they have 1 day left. they recommend max 40 cars.
Intentionally or not, you have made my point quite nicely, as to why individuals or one make clubs don't book more private track days.So for Goodwood, at decent times of year, £270 per person if you can get the full 40, £360 each if only 30 book.
Winter it does drop to £200 each if you can get 30 guaranteed, £150 each if 40, but your chances of a miserable, cold wet day increase markedly.
You or your club have to stand surety for the whole deal and have the problem of collecting the money off everyone.
Trouble is, unless you can guarantee being oversubscribed, you have to set the price on the basis of a lower number of participants, with a refund of the excess if you get the full 40, and then you have the issue of getting people to pay that much.
I for one wouldn't be paying £360 for a track day, even one for my own brand of car, when a group of you can just book onto any old public track day and have fun together. The last day I did last year we had 5 of us TVR owners, all friends, plus a host of BMWs, Lotuses and Caterfields, and for exotica to play with, we had a Porsche GT3 RS and a Mercedes AMG GT .
The £10,800 booking works if you are a company prepared to stump up £10K for a corporate day out - and on top of that you would probably hire a fleet of Caterhams or whatever. That's the market they are aiming at I think.
i echo the above. we looked at booking a track for our owners club but the cost and admin was just too much.
One of the members spoke to the organisers and they offered us a discount code to be used with all said members of the owners club to use when individually booking.
Had about 15 people from the club and it had no impact on a great day sharing it with other users.
One of the members spoke to the organisers and they offered us a discount code to be used with all said members of the owners club to use when individually booking.
Had about 15 people from the club and it had no impact on a great day sharing it with other users.
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