Rear-ended at Anglesey

Rear-ended at Anglesey

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SpudLink

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6,379 posts

198 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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This isn’t a rant, or even a complaint. These things can happen. I just wanted to mention it.

On the International GP circuit, on the straight up to the hairpin. In the braking zone I got a nudge from the car behind. I’d been checking my mirrors, but had no idea he was there. Didn’t even know I’d been hit, because I didn’t think anyone was there. Thought it was some sort of brake disk or pad failure.
I don’t have a central rear view mirror, but always keep a good look in my wing mirrors to see who’s coming. But I know Radicals can catch me by surprise. On this occasion it was a slick-shod Atom.
I’m not really sure how this happened. The Atom driver said he thought I’d seen him. I stayed right for a moment on the straight while I checked my mirrors. He may have interpreted this as letting him past.

I’m not happy, but I’m not blaming the other driver. It could be argued he is at fault because he hit me from behind. But I’ve decided to think of it as an unfortunate misunderstanding.

Anyway, the damage wasn’t enough to prevent either car continuing ‘till the end of the day. And Anglesey is still worth the 4 hour drive from Northampton.


Edited by SpudLink on Tuesday 7th May 15:12

Steve H

5,659 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Good way of looking at it.

Atoms etc are hard work on a trackday unless you are very good with traffic, I got shunted by a radical in a school car once because his pace well exceeded his ability to judge everyone else's rolleyes.


ETA, I assume you mean you had stayed right for a moment??

SpudLink

Original Poster:

6,379 posts

198 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Steve H said:
ETA, I assume you mean you had stayed right for a moment??
That’s exactly what I meant. Stayed right before resuming racing line on the left. smile
I’ve edited it now.

BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

180 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Steve H said:
Good way of looking at it.

Atoms etc are hard work on a trackday unless you are very good with traffic, I got shunted by a radical in a school car once because his pace well exceeded his ability to judge everyone else's rolleyes.
Sorry for hijack, Steve, sent you a pm through PH about tuition a few weeks ago. Did you receive it?

Alex

9,975 posts

290 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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(On most trackdays) overtaking should be by consent and on the straights only. So I would say he is to blame, but these things happen.

mmm-five

11,393 posts

290 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Alex said:
(On most trackdays) overtaking should be by consent and on the straights only. So I would say he is to blame, but these things happen.
...and definitely not into braking zones.

Steve H

5,659 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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BrotherMouzone said:
Sorry for hijack, Steve, sent you a pm through PH about tuition a few weeks ago. Did you receive it?
Sorry, I didn't. I'll message you now byebye.

Black_S3

2,720 posts

194 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Steve H said:
Good way of looking at it.

Atoms etc are hard work on a trackday unless you are very good with traffic, I got shunted by a radical in a school car once because his pace well exceeded his ability to judge everyone else's rolleyes.


ETA, I assume you mean you had stayed right for a moment??
The two instances of car to car contact on days I’ve been on have involved a radical and an atom over taking in what is a braking zone for the car in front then switching the brakes on and being run into the back of by the car they’ve just over taken.

Would be insteresting to see a vid of the OPs incident as genuine confusion over consent is extremely rare imo... not that blame matters much as we’re always in for our own car and to keep track days affordable that has to be the case.

CedricN

825 posts

151 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Ive been on many track days, the by far best working solution ive experienced is the use of the blinkers to confirm that you pull aside to let someone by. then you dont need to only overtake on very long straights to do it safely. It will always be challenging when track days have cars with to much of a speed difference, slicks for example are seldom ok for track days where i live.

SpudLink

Original Poster:

6,379 posts

198 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Black_S3 said:
Would be insteresting to see a vid of the OPs incident as genuine confusion over consent is extremely rare imo...
Video ...
https://streamable.com/u06jq

It's almost undetectable, but a moment after I brake you can see the car move to the right as I get a touch from the rear. As I said it wasn't much of an impact.

Watching it back now, I honestly can't see that I did anything wrong.
You can see me checking my mirrors, before moving to take the normal line.


Black_S3

2,720 posts

194 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Nope you did nothing wrong imo. My gut goes with him over simply cooking it and looking for an excuse to avoid taking responsibility/to escape confrontation as it doesn’t look like there’s a sensible overtake left in that?

Altrezia

8,561 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Agree. You didn't veer left, but gradually moved left, like the line appears to be (I've never done Anglesey).


Kev_Mk3

2,898 posts

101 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Black_S3 said:
Nope you did nothing wrong imo. My gut goes with him over simply cooking it and looking for an excuse to avoid taking responsibility/to escape confrontation as it doesn’t look like there’s a sensible overtake left in that?
+ 1

You did nothing wrong at all

QBee

21,336 posts

150 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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He is trying an overtake too close to a corner, IMHO. Hope the damage wasn't too bad.

SpudLink

Original Poster:

6,379 posts

198 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Having read the various comments, it wasn’t a misunderstanding, he was just a knob.

The fibreglass defuser is cracked but not broken. It’s attached to a metal grill which is bent out of shape. The worst of it is the brackets holding the grill were bonded to the fibreglass. Reattaching them will be a specialist job.

Altrezia

8,561 posts

217 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Nothing a bit of tigerseal can't sort! biggrin

rallycross

13,212 posts

243 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Rear ended at Anglesey

More like massive exaggeration from Anglesey!
If he didn't push you off and there is no damage its just a gentle nudge.

This is what being rear ended looks like


SpudLink

Original Poster:

6,379 posts

198 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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Ouch!
Yeah, OK, it was a gentle nudge. (I’d still rather it hadn’t happened.)

Steve H

5,659 posts

201 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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There's a difference between racing where contact shouldn't happen and trackdays where it doesn't happen wink .

geeks

9,547 posts

145 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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SpudLink said:
Black_S3 said:
Would be insteresting to see a vid of the OPs incident as genuine confusion over consent is extremely rare imo...
Video ...
https://streamable.com/u06jq

It's almost undetectable, but a moment after I brake you can see the car move to the right as I get a touch from the rear. As I said it wasn't much of an impact.

Watching it back now, I honestly can't see that I did anything wrong.
You can see me checking my mirrors, before moving to take the normal line.
You were on the racing line, clearly the guy in the Atom is just a penis as there is no real indication of an overtake being possible, also given your car, I wouldn't have thought he was "just on you"