Wet weather driving in Seven Car
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Cadwell Park in April - 3 degrees, snow, sleet and rain.
Last time I was there in July, was one of the fastest there in the glorious sunshine. Today, I was one of the slowest. Embarrassing. Frustrating.
I know I should have been smooth, but that just became slow. Car just wanted to slide in every corner - running Federal 595 tyres which are supposed to be okay in the wet.
Maybe I should take up golf.
AWRacing said:
What tyre pressures were you running?
Remember that in the wet you need to increase pressures.
Caldwell in the wet is a cracking circuit, really keeps you on your toes - especially over the mountain when the car goes light!
16PSI. I understood that you drop tyre pressure to increase grip - they heat up quicker and have a wider contact patch??Remember that in the wet you need to increase pressures.
Caldwell in the wet is a cracking circuit, really keeps you on your toes - especially over the mountain when the car goes light!
Any rate, I don't think tyre pressures would have helped. A bit more driving talent might!
chutley said:
slide in every corner
Do you mean understeering? Tyres and tyre pressures can help significantly. Also you could look at removing the front anti-roll bar if understeering, and if they rear ARB is adjustible you could be adjusting it. In my previous Westfield I used to throw on a set of skinny avon CR28 turbospeed and they were phenomenal in the wet - the closest road legal thing to race wets I've ever used.
I know it is a very different car & what was the answer for me may not be the right answer for you, but, I use the best tyres that I can find on the road which double up as my wet set up & then Nankang NS R2 for the dry.
So CSC 5s/F1 Assy 2/RT Sport Max 2 for the wet/road, I gather Rainsport 2 are well liked for this too.
So CSC 5s/F1 Assy 2/RT Sport Max 2 for the wet/road, I gather Rainsport 2 are well liked for this too.
Order66 said:
Do you mean understeering? Tyres and tyre pressures can help significantly. Also you could look at removing the front anti-roll bar if understeering, and if they rear ARB is adjustible you could be adjusting it.
In my previous Westfield I used to throw on a set of skinny avon CR28 turbospeed and they were phenomenal in the wet - the closest road legal thing to race wets I've ever used.
Car wanted to oversteer as soon as power applied - unless really gentle.In my previous Westfield I used to throw on a set of skinny avon CR28 turbospeed and they were phenomenal in the wet - the closest road legal thing to race wets I've ever used.
chutley said:
Cadwell Park in April - 3 degrees, snow, sleet and rain.
Last time I was there in July, was one of the fastest there in the glorious sunshine. Today, I was one of the slowest. Embarrassing. Frustrating.
I know I should have been smooth, but that just became slow. Car just wanted to slide in every corner - running Federal 595 tyres which are supposed to be okay in the wet.
Maybe I should take up golf.
Why would even care if the car isn't fast in the wet? You're there to have fun with the car. You're not a works team with wet / dry setup's chasing tenths for a podium...Last time I was there in July, was one of the fastest there in the glorious sunshine. Today, I was one of the slowest. Embarrassing. Frustrating.
I know I should have been smooth, but that just became slow. Car just wanted to slide in every corner - running Federal 595 tyres which are supposed to be okay in the wet.
Maybe I should take up golf.
Personally, I'd think Cadwell in the wet in a Caterham sounds like the most fun I could ever have...
Order66 said:
Do you mean understeering? Tyres and tyre pressures can help significantly. Also you could look at removing the front anti-roll bar if understeering, and if they rear ARB is adjustible you could be adjusting it.
In my previous Westfield I used to throw on a set of skinny avon CR28 turbospeed and they were phenomenal in the wet - the closest road legal thing to race wets I've ever used.
Can echo the comment about the CR28's. Also had them on a Westfield at a soaking Silverstone trackday, which was eventually abandoned. Grip was astonishing as was the amount of water they were shifting and we were doing respectable lap times whilst others were spinning. Not that we could see much mind! No good on a damp circuit though as they heat up very quickly and break up. In my previous Westfield I used to throw on a set of skinny avon CR28 turbospeed and they were phenomenal in the wet - the closest road legal thing to race wets I've ever used.
Boring_Chris said:
Why would even care if the car isn't fast in the wet? You're there to have fun with the car. You're not a works team with wet / dry setup's chasing tenths for a podium...
Personally, I'd think Cadwell in the wet in a Caterham sounds like the most fun I could ever have...
I rented a Tiger Avon for the day at Cadwell, it was <10 degrees and rained all day. The car had an aero screen and no doors, full cage. R888 tyres. It was horrendous.Personally, I'd think Cadwell in the wet in a Caterham sounds like the most fun I could ever have...
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