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Did an excellent one yesterday at Bruntingthorpe - 1:1 with Don Palmer. Learnt a hell of a lot about how a tyre works & responds, and also how to steer properly - don't laugh - until you can feel the torque of the tyres losing/gaining grip, you can't slide the car or go any faster. About £400, but money very well spent.
There are a few companies who throw together packages which are guided rides through france/germany then have a t/day at the destination. Try www.byrne-up.co.uk or 'farside sportsbiking' (you'll have to google it).
There are a few companies who throw together packages which are guided rides through france/germany then have a t/day at the destination. Try www.byrne-up.co.uk or 'farside sportsbiking' (you'll have to google it).
dorifter said:
did he go all NLP on you.?.......i really want to have a day ,but its a tad on the dear side al tho i'm sure its well worth it .......NLP !!
Er, yes! It is expensive, but I did think it was worth every penny. If nothing else, Don makes you aware of what you are subconsciously doing when driving, gets you to relax and also teaches you about how a tyre behaves and how this contributes to car handling and stering feel. Sliding at 80mph in full control is a great feeling. Just do it.
NLP, NLP, NLP. Lovely.
Why not simply go racing rather than do track days ? I suspect that many people have racing budgets smaller than others spend on track days.
I have been racing and doing the odd track day for 20 years and if you like driving quickly then racing is just much more exilerating. Plus if you get a racing license you can go to test days rather than track days - which means no restriction on overtaking (like the old track days) and you are allowed to make much more noise 108dB and unlimited at some places.
I have been racing and doing the odd track day for 20 years and if you like driving quickly then racing is just much more exilerating. Plus if you get a racing license you can go to test days rather than track days - which means no restriction on overtaking (like the old track days) and you are allowed to make much more noise 108dB and unlimited at some places.
Kickstart said:
Why not simply go racing rather than do track days ? I suspect that many people have racing budgets smaller than others spend on track days.
I have been racing and doing the odd track day for 20 years and if you like driving quickly then racing is just much more exilerating. Plus if you get a racing license you can go to test days rather than track days - which means no restriction on overtaking (like the old track days) and you are allowed to make much more noise 108dB and unlimited at some places.
This may answer some of the questions.
Track days and racing are very different. You can drive to a track day, have a great day, and be 99.9% certain that you will be driving home afterwards. Having written off my race car a couple of weeks back, I can definitely testify that racing is much more expensive.
Track days and racing are very different. You can drive to a track day, have a great day, and be 99.9% certain that you will be driving home afterwards. Having written off my race car a couple of weeks back, I can definitely testify that racing is much more expensive.[/quote]
I would agree with you that you are more likely to damage a racing car than a track day car - but if you race say a single seater the costs of taking a corner off will be a few hundred pounds where as if you throw a 996 off on a track it is big bucks.I have lost count of the number of truly expensive cars I have seen with blown engines over the years at track days.
The point I am making is that when I go on the occasional track day now I see more and more specialised kit such as Radicals running which are trailered to the track day. You spend your money and take your choice of course but you can definately go racing for what some people spend on track days.
I'm slightly biased but... yes you can go racing very cheaply but... It's not just the money you actually spend on it, it's the money you're not earning while you're away from the office and the time you need to take out.
When you then look at how little track time you get with most race series compared to what you get on a track day, and the hours you spend hanging round on race weekends the picture can change significantly.
If you do endurance stuff great, but if you turn up for a 15 minute quali session and a 10 lap race and then go home you haven't got much bang for your buck.
When you then look at how little track time you get with most race series compared to what you get on a track day, and the hours you spend hanging round on race weekends the picture can change significantly.
If you do endurance stuff great, but if you turn up for a 15 minute quali session and a 10 lap race and then go home you haven't got much bang for your buck.
bad_roo said:
I got on pretty well with Don's technique of tuition but the guy who I went with didn't manage to penetrate Don's verbiage too successfully.
Hmmm, I had a mixed experience with Don too. Though I think that's just Don rather than the NLP. (As I know a few other NLP practitioners, but nobody's quite like Don!) I learnt a little from the day, but I don't think Don's got the facilities he needs anymore. (He's no longer got access to the wet grip facilities at MIRA, unfortunately.)
As well as Don and racing, anybody done anything else they'd recommend?
Hi, I presume you mean this Cadence: www.cadence.uk.com
Yes, I've also done a day with Cadence. Like you, I very highly recommend them. Training by the likes of Cadence and RideDrive is something I believe everybody should do. Wicked fun, too
(Much more fun than a regular track day.)
Hugh Noblett, who runs Cadence, is a famous driving dude. As well as the police, he also taught the SAS how to drive (chasing terrorists, etc); he's a very talented guy and formerly taught the renowned High Performance Course www.hpc.org.uk
Yes, I've also done a day with Cadence. Like you, I very highly recommend them. Training by the likes of Cadence and RideDrive is something I believe everybody should do. Wicked fun, too
(Much more fun than a regular track day.) Hugh Noblett, who runs Cadence, is a famous driving dude. As well as the police, he also taught the SAS how to drive (chasing terrorists, etc); he's a very talented guy and formerly taught the renowned High Performance Course www.hpc.org.uk
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