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OldSchoolSmudger said:
especially as the UK BMW asian drivers had gone home
What are these 'BMW asian' things about then, what people have moved on to after the F8x M3/4? Not seen one on the road yet. Edited by OldSchoolSmudger on Monday 10th June 22:03
Can say what you like about Mischa and his collision, at least the front end of that M4 looked miles better post-impact.
CKY said:
What are these 'BMW asian' things about then, what people have moved on to after the F8x M3/4? Not seen one on the road yet.
Can say what you like about Mischa and his collision, at least the front end of that M4 looked miles better post-impact.
They're a breed that is starting to overrun the native species. They remove their number plates, drive round the parking lot the wrong way, park in the motorcycle area and generally don't give two f@cks about anyone but themselves. Ultimately they are a very anti social species that if found should be eradicated wherever possible..Can say what you like about Mischa and his collision, at least the front end of that M4 looked miles better post-impact.
fridaypassion said:
Misha ended up sat on the barrier on the inside left after the kerb. Ain't going to end up there unless you were driving way too fast! Looks a pretty big accident here was lucky to walk away relatively unharmed.
I know he's blaming the car and incredibly the place that built it but was it the first lap the car had done? Why does it have to be him that's found a flaw? Not taking responsibility and blaming others is pretty narcissistic.
Nothing against the guy and love his whole story of the guy who made his dreams come true but It doesn’t seem like a coincidence to me that just days prior to this crash he was racing a fully race prepped M4 GT4 in the 24 hour race then comes a cropper doing a full send video in a random modified spec M4 he’s just jumped into minutes before that’s also on what looks like Belarus plates and possibly 1000s of miles into a road trip since it’s last proper check up.I know he's blaming the car and incredibly the place that built it but was it the first lap the car had done? Why does it have to be him that's found a flaw? Not taking responsibility and blaming others is pretty narcissistic.
It’s quite hard to blame anyone but the driver when he was possibly only in the car for maybe 10km before he hit the barrier and maybe as little as 9km before he lost control. For me you really shouldn’t ever be close to front flipping onto the barriers on your first lap in an unknown car - regardless of skill level it’s just plain reckless especially in TF. Maybe if he’d done a few laps and built up to his video lap he’d have found the ‘fault’ without nearly killing himself.
Edited by Black_S3 on Friday 14th June 02:55
Black_S3 said:
fridaypassion said:
Misha ended up sat on the barrier on the inside left after the kerb. Ain't going to end up there unless you were driving way too fast! Looks a pretty big accident here was lucky to walk away relatively unharmed.
I know he's blaming the car and incredibly the place that built it but was it the first lap the car had done? Why does it have to be him that's found a flaw? Not taking responsibility and blaming others is pretty narcissistic.
Nothing against the guy and love his whole story of the guy who made his dreams come true but It doesn’t seem like a coincidence to me that just days prior to this crash he was racing a fully race prepped M4 GT4 in the 24 hour race then comes a cropper doing a full send video in a random modified spec M4 he’s just jumped into minutes before that’s also on what looks like Belarus plates and possibly 1000s of miles into a road trip since it’s last proper check up.I know he's blaming the car and incredibly the place that built it but was it the first lap the car had done? Why does it have to be him that's found a flaw? Not taking responsibility and blaming others is pretty narcissistic.
It’s quite hard to blame anyone but the driver when he was possibly only in the car for maybe 10km before he hit the barrier and maybe as little as 9km before he lost control. For me you really shouldn’t ever be close to front flipping onto the barriers on your first lap in an unknown car - regardless of skill level it’s just plain reckless especially in TF. Maybe if he’d done a few laps and built up to his video lap he’d have found the ‘fault’ without nearly killing himself.
Edited by Black_S3 on Friday 14th June 02:55
Black_S3 said:
Nothing against the guy and love his whole story of the guy who made his dreams come true but It doesn’t seem like a coincidence to me that just days prior to this crash he was racing a fully race prepped M4 GT4 in the 24 hour race then comes a cropper doing a full send video in a random modified spec M4 he’s just jumped into minutes before that’s also on what looks like Belarus plates and possibly 1000s of miles into a road trip since it’s last proper check up.
It’s quite hard to blame anyone but the driver when he was possibly only in the car for maybe 10km before he hit the barrier and maybe as little as 9km before he lost control. For me you really shouldn’t ever be close to front flipping onto the barriers on your first lap in an unknown car - regardless of skill level it’s just plain reckless especially in TF. Maybe if he’d done a few laps and built up to his video lap he’d have found the ‘fault’ without nearly killing himself.
Absolutely agree. Unless someone hits you or you hit fluids or should be near impossible to crash. The truth is he is taking risks for views which is all well and good until you hurt someone. It's time his media license was revoked and again very poor form to blame the car and the guys that built it. It’s quite hard to blame anyone but the driver when he was possibly only in the car for maybe 10km before he hit the barrier and maybe as little as 9km before he lost control. For me you really shouldn’t ever be close to front flipping onto the barriers on your first lap in an unknown car - regardless of skill level it’s just plain reckless especially in TF. Maybe if he’d done a few laps and built up to his video lap he’d have found the ‘fault’ without nearly killing himself.
Edited by Black_S3 on Friday 14th June 02:55
The video he's out out is narcissism central he's taking responsibility but at the same time blaming the car and saying he could have walked away but I'm being an all round good guy and helping the owner rebuild... By setting up a fund raiser.
Jesus really?
ecsrobin said:
Redline88 said:
It’s a Polish car.
It’s on Belarusian plates?fridaypassion said:
and helping the owner rebuild... By setting up a fund raiser.
Really, people are idiots if they are paying into a fundraiser for a car he crashed!Black_S3 said:
It’s quite hard to blame anyone but the driver when he was possibly only in the car for maybe 10km before he hit the barrier and maybe as little as 9km before he lost control. For me you really shouldn’t ever be close to front flipping onto the barriers on your first lap in an unknown car - regardless of skill level it’s just plain reckless especially in TF. Maybe if he’d done a few laps and built up to his video lap he’d have found the ‘fault’ without nearly killing himself.
Good point well made, more often than not 'familiarity builds complacency'. This in itself is bad enough when you're operating at the top of your field, when you're not at the top of your field it results in the mother-and-father of all accidents, as evidenced this time. It sounds bad to say, but perhaps it would have been better for Mischa to have taken a bump during the accident to knock some sense in to him? The fact this was A) during TF, B) his driving hasn't changed despite the fact he's crashed countless people's cars now, and C) all the mouthbreathers around the world looking up to him will see this as a 'How To: Nordschleife TF' guide is scary. Edited by Black_S3 on Friday 14th June 02:55
WeirdNeville said:
I don't hate Misha. I just think he attracts a crowd and promotes a driving style which are incompatible with the place staying open and available for the rest of us. It's putting lives at risk, ultimately. Not least his own.
To be fair to him I think that crowd would be there anyway as it’s really the ring management and police that should be ontop of them in TF. The accessibility to a steering wheel and a PlayStation is what really sent it mental imo.That said a few people have mentioned the likes of the Ben lovejoy/dale eras… those guys definitely promoted safety, so now the money’s there its maybe time for misha to start insisting getting the cars on the ramp before hand and doing a sighting lap instead of how most his videos start with him inspecting the car after the lap because he was rushing to get on before the track closed.
Driving cars owned by people who, very often in their own admission, aren’t capable of a near decent lap means Misha is crash test dummy. He’s driving cars harder than they’ve previously run. It’s inherently risky.
One observation I’d make about the circuit is, he might have got away with locking up through the Foxhole compression, had the kerb on the following LH corner remained at a rideable height. It took me a little to recalibrate on DN day, as that was one of the kerbs I rode from pretty much my first ever laps. I did have the odd braking misjudgement there at last DN and it always resulted in oversteering. I’m not a fan of that change. ETA not to apportion blame to anyone other than driver, just a side comment.
One observation I’d make about the circuit is, he might have got away with locking up through the Foxhole compression, had the kerb on the following LH corner remained at a rideable height. It took me a little to recalibrate on DN day, as that was one of the kerbs I rode from pretty much my first ever laps. I did have the odd braking misjudgement there at last DN and it always resulted in oversteering. I’m not a fan of that change. ETA not to apportion blame to anyone other than driver, just a side comment.
Edited by Digga on Saturday 15th June 07:39
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