Driving a non-Swiss registered car here

Driving a non-Swiss registered car here

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marcusjames

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782 posts

267 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Speaking to a friend in Dusseldorf who wanted to lend his German registered car to his girlfriend in Zurich. He was stopped at the border in a random check. They asked why he was travelling to Switzerland etc. He mentioned that he was driving there and flying back yadda yadda.

They mentioned that she was not allowed to drive a non-Swiss registered car if she is a Swiss resident. He challenged them but they were insistent. He has since called his insurance company who have confirmed this. Apparently, regardless of any-driver policy etc, Swiss residents are not insured on foreign registered cars unless the owner is present.

Anybody heard of this ?

AndrewD

7,582 posts

290 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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Is your "friend's" girlfriend hot? Pics please

tnw

536 posts

208 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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As long as it doesn't work the other way around, I'll have to emigrate otherwise!

AndrewD

7,582 posts

290 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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tnw said:
As long as it doesn't work the other way around, I'll have to emigrate otherwise!
are you saying you're Marcus' girlfriend? redface

tnw

536 posts

208 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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AndrewD said:
tnw said:
As long as it doesn't work the other way around, I'll have to emigrate otherwise!
are you saying you're Marcus' girlfriend? redface
Not me, you are safe from competition smile

phelix

4,486 posts

255 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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I struggle to understand how Swiss law can limit the applicability of a German insurance policy - surely it must depend upon what's actually in the policy? "Any Driver" must have some limitations - must the driver be licensed in the country in which the policy is written?

marcusjames

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782 posts

267 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Apparently it's a restriction that the Swiss have put on people bringing in cheaper cars from EU and avoiding the official importation. There is a 3 day rule but temporary import duties need to be paid.

JMGS4

8,755 posts

276 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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True! Swiss residents are NOT allowed to drive non-swiss registered vehicles in Switzerland. My daughter can't even take my car over the border for a few huundred yards to her house....

phelix

4,486 posts

255 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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That explains something... I recently entered Switzerland from Germany with a German registered car and a UK passport. I got asked three times if I was a Swiss resident; after the third time I came close to asking which part of "No, I'm not a Swiss resident" the officer didn't understand but then thought better of it. I don't like the sound of rubber gloves. biggrin

Whitean3

2,190 posts

204 months

Tuesday 7th December 2010
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So what is the situation if I were to have a UK registered car, insured to a UK address and owned by myself- with Swiss driving licence and Swiss residency? Could I bring that across to drive around Switzerland for a couple of months?

Just idly thinking, as should that monster, imaginary windfall land in my lap, could I own a car that could not possibly be registered by the bureaucrats in Switzerland? I'm thinking Ultima for example...

JMGS4

8,755 posts

276 months

Tuesday 7th December 2010
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Whitean3 said:
So what is the situation if I were to have a UK registered car, insured to a UK address and owned by myself- with Swiss driving licence and Swiss residency? Could I bring that across to drive around Switzerland for a couple of months?

Just idly thinking, as should that monster, imaginary windfall land in my lap, could I own a car that could not possibly be registered by the bureaucrats in Switzerland? I'm thinking Ultima for example...
You'd have to reregister it in CH, you cannot drive it on a swiss license in CH!!

Whitean3

2,190 posts

204 months

Wednesday 8th December 2010
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JMGS4 said:
Whitean3 said:
So what is the situation if I were to have a UK registered car, insured to a UK address and owned by myself- with Swiss driving licence and Swiss residency? Could I bring that across to drive around Switzerland for a couple of months?

Just idly thinking, as should that monster, imaginary windfall land in my lap, could I own a car that could not possibly be registered by the bureaucrats in Switzerland? I'm thinking Ultima for example...
You'd have to reregister it in CH, you cannot drive it on a swiss license in CH!!
Ultima will have to wait then!

marcusjames

Original Poster:

782 posts

267 months

Wednesday 8th December 2010
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tnw said:
As long as it doesn't work the other way around, I'll have to emigrate otherwise!
Nope, only impacts Swiss residents.

Valentin

3,279 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th January 2011
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Whitean3 said:
So what is the situation if I were to have a UK registered car, insured to a UK address and owned by myself- with Swiss driving licence and Swiss residency? Could I bring that across to drive around Switzerland for a couple of months?

Just idly thinking, as should that monster, imaginary windfall land in my lap, could I own a car that could not possibly be registered by the bureaucrats in Switzerland? I'm thinking Ultima for example...
Yes it's possible. But you'd have to pay a horrendous amount in taxes. My uncle (who's swiss) lives and works in Munich and being often in Switzerland he basically had to pay swiss VAT on the car.
It's only a matter of taxes, nothing to do with insurance.

rallycross

13,209 posts

243 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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Dragging up an old thread as could not find an answer.

What are the rules/paperwork requirements when selling a car in Switzerland?

I am in the UK, and have been offered a Swiss registered car from a friend in part exchange for one of my cars.

I will drive it over to Switzerland in July and sell it to a dealer there (as part of my holiday) and then fly back.

The car will still be Swiss registered to the current owner (not me), does that cause any paperwork problems when selling to a dealer? (the car will be insured with my trade insurance).

MogulBoy

2,969 posts

229 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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If you already have the purchasing dealer in mind, speak to them and they will guide you as each Canton (county) has its own rules and peculiarities.

You say it's a Swiss registered car well if it has valid Swiss number plates fitted then it may already be covered by the keepers insurance*.... If the Swiss insurance has lapsed then there is 'a chance' that you will be stopped at the border and have to explain....

This happened to a colleague of mine earlier this year when his insurance had lapsed due to an administrative cockup and numberplate recognintion technology meant he was alerted to the fact by the border guards when he tried to re-enter from France - much to the amusement of his entire family who were told that their journey ended there with the car being impounded (not being possible to sort out the admin in situ given that it was the weekend)!

P.S. * If you have the grey owners document you will see the name of the Swiss insurance company in box 9.


Edited by MogulBoy on Monday 11th June 12:32

Whitean3

2,190 posts

204 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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Just coming back to this topic again, as without thinking, I guess I am flouting the law when I drop my car off for a service in Loerrach and get given a lovely, brand new replacement Porsche on German plates to blat around with! I'm guessing there is some sort of exemption if it is a loan car? If not, to hell with the rules!

JMGS4

8,755 posts

276 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Whitean3 said:
Just coming back to this topic again, as without thinking, I guess I am flouting the law when I drop my car off for a service in Loerrach and get given a lovely, brand new replacement Porsche on German plates to blat around with! I'm guessing there is some sort of exemption if it is a loan car? If not, to hell with the rules!
NOPE!!! It's technically a hire car so exempt in that case (I asked!)