Current Shape Civic Brake Pad Upgrade

Current Shape Civic Brake Pad Upgrade

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CatherineJ

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9,586 posts

248 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Not sure if i'll get many replies, but i'll give it a go.

Need to change the front pads on my Type S. I've never been a fan of the brakes on either of our Civic Type S cars, the 2.2D and 1.4 use the same pads and admitedly the 1.4 stops a lot better than the 2.2, it's still not great.

So it's having some new front boots on Saturday and the brakes will need doing too.

I was going to get some EBC pads on it, but which colour do I get? The car spends most of it's life on A roads and the M4. Are there any other pads I should be considering as I don't really want to go down the route of standard Honda pads again.

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

203 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Ferodo DS2500. They are very very good. Not strictly MOT worthy, but absolutly zero fade in my expirence. Very pleased with them.

gwiz

CatherineJ

Original Poster:

9,586 posts

248 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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GingerWizard said:
Ferodo DS2500. They are very very good. Not strictly MOT worthy, but absolutly zero fade in my expirence. Very pleased with them.

gwiz
Can I ask why they aren't MOT worthy?

My car is about 16 months old, so probably an MOT isn't a worry at the moment, but if I find something good, I would probably want to keep with the same pad.

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

203 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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CatherineJ said:
GingerWizard said:
Ferodo DS2500. They are very very good. Not strictly MOT worthy, but absolutly zero fade in my expirence. Very pleased with them.

gwiz
Can I ask why they aren't MOT worthy?

My car is about 16 months old, so probably an MOT isn't a worry at the moment, but if I find something good, I would probably want to keep with the same pad.
I believe they are track based pads and as such Europe deems them inappropriate for the road..... Yawn.....

you would need to go to the most anal MOT inspector in the world for him to notice though as he would have to take the pads out and inspect them for the serial numbers......

5harp3y

1,959 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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GingerWizard said:
CatherineJ said:
GingerWizard said:
Ferodo DS2500. They are very very good. Not strictly MOT worthy, but absolutly zero fade in my expirence. Very pleased with them.

gwiz
Can I ask why they aren't MOT worthy?

My car is about 16 months old, so probably an MOT isn't a worry at the moment, but if I find something good, I would probably want to keep with the same pad.
I believe they are track based pads and as such Europe deems them inappropriate for the road..... Yawn.....

you would need to go to the most anal MOT inspector in the world for him to notice though as he would have to take the pads out and inspect them for the serial numbers......
Well thats fine then as MOT testers are not allowed to remove/dismantle anything on your car

Grovsie26

1,302 posts

172 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Thats a load of bks about MOT's and the pads, there fine.

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

203 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Grovsie26 said:
Thats a load of bks about MOT's and the pads, there fine.
The fella i use said they are sold as "track day pads" so not suitable for road use... No reason to lie to me about it.

They are bloody good though, with my RE040's on a warm day they are almost unbeatable, comparativly other cars (peugeots in particular) feel bloody dangerous.

They do take a firm prod from cold though.

Gwiz

CatherineJ

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9,586 posts

248 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Ok guys what would be a sensible fitted price for these pads?

Honda Genuine ones are £95 fitted under their fixed repair scheme.

I can get EBC Greenstuff fitted for £86.00 at a local garage.

I'm also looking for a pad that will generate a lot less dust too, although admitedly it isn't as bad on the 1.4 as it is on the diesel.

Edited by CatherineJ on Friday 14th January 08:23

Grovsie26

1,302 posts

172 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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GingerWizard said:
Grovsie26 said:
Thats a load of bks about MOT's and the pads, there fine.
The fella i use said they are sold as "track day pads" so not suitable for road use... No reason to lie to me about it.

They are bloody good though, with my RE040's on a warm day they are almost unbeatable, comparativly other cars (peugeots in particular) feel bloody dangerous.

They do take a firm prod from cold though.

Gwiz
He's terribly mis-informed then, as it's a load of rubbish.

I seriously doubt you need uprated pads from the sounds of things.

Edited by Grovsie26 on Saturday 15th January 00:49

CatherineJ

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9,586 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Well a nice surprise this morning. When they fitted the tyres and checked the pads they were only 50% worn on the front. I didn't think that too bad for 19K miles.

So I just had the Toyo T1R's fitted.

bondyboy

27 posts

197 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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CatherineJ said:
GingerWizard said:
Ferodo DS2500. They are very very good. Not strictly MOT worthy, but absolutly zero fade in my expirence. Very pleased with them.

gwiz
Can I ask why they aren't MOT worthy?

My car is about 16 months old, so probably an MOT isn't a worry at the moment, but if I find something good, I would probably want to keep with the same pad.
IIRC the reason they don't have the european certificate, which in turn makes them not really legal, is that the cetification requires the pads not change the oem braking force by + or - 35%, ds2500's exceed 35% over oem

bondyboy

27 posts

197 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Grovsie26 said:
GingerWizard said:
Grovsie26 said:
Thats a load of bks about MOT's and the pads, there fine.
The fella i use said they are sold as "track day pads" so not suitable for road use... No reason to lie to me about it.

They are bloody good though, with my RE040's on a warm day they are almost unbeatable, comparativly other cars (peugeots in particular) feel bloody dangerous.

They do take a firm prod from cold though.

Gwiz
He's terribly mis-informed then, as it's a load of rubbish.

I seriously doubt you need uprated pads from the sounds of things.

Edited by Grovsie26 on Saturday 15th January 00:49
I've passed MOT's with them on but as I've said above the fella is technically right, but the testers aren't looking for kite marks on pads

but it doesn't sound like the OP needs ds2500's, they do need a bit of warming up, and my experiences with ebc products aint great

For daily driver I'd recommend projectMU pads, crazy bite from stone cold and low dust, not given them extended periods of abuse as they're not a track pad (winter = no track days) expensive though wink


GingerWizard

4,721 posts

203 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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bondyboy said:
CatherineJ said:
GingerWizard said:
Ferodo DS2500. They are very very good. Not strictly MOT worthy, but absolutly zero fade in my expirence. Very pleased with them.

gwiz
Can I ask why they aren't MOT worthy?

My car is about 16 months old, so probably an MOT isn't a worry at the moment, but if I find something good, I would probably want to keep with the same pad.
IIRC the reason they don't have the european certificate, which in turn makes them not really legal, is that the cetification requires the pads not change the oem braking force by + or - 35%, ds2500's exceed 35% over oem
cheers BondyBoy i knew my man was not telling fibs... (I suspect he is anal about a lot of things mind! wink )

Glosphil

4,458 posts

239 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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CatherineJ said:
Well a nice surprise this morning. When they fitted the tyres and checked the pads they were only 50% worn on the front. I didn't think that too bad for 19K miles.

So I just had the Toyo T1R's fitted.
The front pads on my 2005 Civic 2-litre Type-S lasted for 52K miles. Discs and pads were replaced with 'standard' non-Honda items at a total cost of £90 for parts and £45 for fitting. Discs were changed as they were badly scored when I bought the car. The brakes are fine after another 14K miles and I certainly don't see any need for up-rated brakes.

Edited by Glosphil on Tuesday 18th January 10:27

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

214 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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CatherineJ said:
So I just had the Toyo T1R's fitted.
Bad luck