Help required from a dc2 owner pretty please??

Help required from a dc2 owner pretty please??

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UnluckyTimmeh

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3,499 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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I'm having a few starting issue at the mo.
I'm fairly handy with the right tools. Anyhoo, so my car ha not been starting recently. Starter motor fails. Got it out to bench test, it's springing out but not turning. It's been doing the standard dash lights dim radio and gauges go off then kick back in, like a massive power drain as the starter would.....

So anyway, new starter is on it's way but my problem is this...

There is always 12v to my starter. Even when the engine & ignition is switched off.

Is this right? Even the voltage between the two posts on the starter motor are at 12v (more when car is running).

Just wondered if someone with an integra and a volt meter could tell me whether they are getting the same?? For what it's worth, mine is a 96 spec DC2 jdm.

Seems strange though. I'm wondering if the starter relay is sticking and I'm changing the starter if it's going to burn it out if it's always got volts to it?

Cheers all,

Tim

adz9

147 posts

196 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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Hey Dude!

I'm away with work at the moment but when I get back I can check on my DC2! It does sound strange to me as well that there should be volts going to the starter at all times :S

I dont suppose the lights dimming etc could be due to the dizzy? I know that they are prone to going on the B series engines....

UnluckyTimmeh

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Friday 12th November 2010
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Well I've got a new starter motor turning up on Monday so I'll go again then.
I've asked on itr-dc2, sound like it's normal but it'd still be interested to know what yours is doing.

Cheers,

Tim.

GarryA

4,700 posts

169 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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If the motors sticking then there is going to be a massive current draw, and hence the dim lights.

12v will be present on the motor almost wired directly from the battery, your ignition provides a 12v supply to the solenoid which applies the permanent 12v to the motor.

UnluckyTimmeh

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Friday 12th November 2010
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GarryA said:
If the motors sticking then there is going to be a massive current draw, and hence the dim lights.

12v will be present on the motor almost wired directly from the battery, your ignition provides a 12v supply to the solenoid which applies the permanent 12v to the motor.
that makes sense. Thanks guys. I'll report back once the new starter is fitted.

I'm starting to think it can't be anything else.

UnluckyTimmeh

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Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Right starter motor fitted on Monday no probs. Started and ran no issues, didn't drive it I just wanted to confirm it started. Didn't use the car until tonight, when again, it didn't start. Exactly the same fault as before. So I'm guessing relay next? What are your thoughts?

Thanks all,

Tim.

GarryA

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Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Have you got a multimeter?

If so, what is the voltage of the battery (engine off)

UnluckyTimmeh

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Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Voltage is 12.7v

when running at 2000rpm it's at 13.5v as apparently it should.

First time this happened I attached jump leads as I though this could be the problem, but it didn't make a difference.

GarryA

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Wednesday 17th November 2010
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12.7 is fully charged so thats good.

The next thing I would do is put a feed onto the solenoid (in place of the 12v from the ignition) see if it turns the starter over.

UnluckyTimmeh

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Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Well the starter is brand new. When I got home 12 miles or so from work it fired on the key. But I gaurentee tomorrow morning it won't start

GarryA

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169 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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UnluckyTimmeh said:
Well the starter is brand new. When I got home 12 miles or so from work it fired on the key. But I gaurentee tomorrow morning it won't start
Putting a feed directly to the solenoid will narrow it down a lot.

UnluckyTimmeh

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Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Ok. I'll give it a go tomorrow. So I guess if it spins over fine it's relay/ignition switch.

GarryA

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Wednesday 17th November 2010
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UnluckyTimmeh said:
Ok. I'll give it a go tomorrow. So I guess if it spins over fine it's relay/ignition switch.
The relay should be the solenoid which is part of the motor.

You need to make the 'jumper cable'



Edited by GarryA on Wednesday 17th November 21:07

ALawson

7,845 posts

256 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Have you done a load test on the battery? It might be getting charged but if an internal plate or other fault has occured it will just drain down.

Check that nothing else in the car is draining the battery.

UnluckyTimmeh

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Thursday 18th November 2010
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Wouldn't have jumping it off another battery started it if that was the issue?
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