Calling FR-V owners - child seats - how many and where?
Discussion
Anyone on here know in which seats you can use belt in Group 1 seats like a Maxi Cosi Tobi?
I am trying to find out if:
the front centre seat ok for belt in?
the rear middle ok for belt in? (I assume the outer ones are like other car and should be fine for belt in?)
I know from searching online that the rear outermost seats and the front middle is ok for Iso-fix but I can't find anything about belt in seats...
I am trying to find out if:
the front centre seat ok for belt in?
the rear middle ok for belt in? (I assume the outer ones are like other car and should be fine for belt in?)
I know from searching online that the rear outermost seats and the front middle is ok for Iso-fix but I can't find anything about belt in seats...
Thanks Risotto.
The Maxi Cosi site shows the incorrect seating configuration (they show the FR-V has having 2 front seat and 2 rows of 3 in the back!)-will drop them a mail.
The Britax site is correct though and very handy but I still want to see what Honda themselves say about car seats, especially in the middle rear and front middle as I don't expect the seat manufacturers to get it right on every model as Maxi Cosi have proved...
I will have dig about online for an owners manual as it should be in there.
Still just looking hopefully to purchase one next year only to replace the Jazz - the FR-V is scarce over here in Greece with just 5 for sale, all over 12k euros too! Big premium over the Cmax or even a higher mileage Verso of the same year but I really like the FR-V compared with everything else in this category.
The Maxi Cosi site shows the incorrect seating configuration (they show the FR-V has having 2 front seat and 2 rows of 3 in the back!)-will drop them a mail.
The Britax site is correct though and very handy but I still want to see what Honda themselves say about car seats, especially in the middle rear and front middle as I don't expect the seat manufacturers to get it right on every model as Maxi Cosi have proved...
I will have dig about online for an owners manual as it should be in there.
Still just looking hopefully to purchase one next year only to replace the Jazz - the FR-V is scarce over here in Greece with just 5 for sale, all over 12k euros too! Big premium over the Cmax or even a higher mileage Verso of the same year but I really like the FR-V compared with everything else in this category.
Deerfoot said:
Dino D said:
I will have dig about online for an owners manual as it should be in there.
I`ll have a look in my handbook tonight. I know the front centre seat has ISOFIX although I`ve never used it for a child seat.The middle rear does not have iso-fix but the rear outers do (which I think a bit odd as teh middle seat is great place to put iso-fix seat..).
I was wondering again if the rear middle can take a belt-in seat - I suspect it has a roof mounted 3 point seat belt that may preclude this (although Britax say some of their seats are ok in this seat provided the headrest is adjusted correctly or recline feature is activated on the child seat).
It'll be good to hear what Honda have to say too.
Dino D said:
Thanks Risotto.
The Maxi Cosi site shows the incorrect seating configuration (they show the FR-V has having 2 front seat and 2 rows of 3 in the back!)-will drop them a mail.
The Britax site is correct though and very handy but I still want to see what Honda themselves say about car seats, especially in the middle rear and front middle as I don't expect the seat manufacturers to get it right on every model as Maxi Cosi have proved...
I will have dig about online for an owners manual as it should be in there.
Still just looking hopefully to purchase one next year only to replace the Jazz - the FR-V is scarce over here in Greece with just 5 for sale, all over 12k euros too! Big premium over the Cmax or even a higher mileage Verso of the same year but I really like the FR-V compared with everything else in this category.
I would go with what ever Britax say rather than the car manufacturer.The Maxi Cosi site shows the incorrect seating configuration (they show the FR-V has having 2 front seat and 2 rows of 3 in the back!)-will drop them a mail.
The Britax site is correct though and very handy but I still want to see what Honda themselves say about car seats, especially in the middle rear and front middle as I don't expect the seat manufacturers to get it right on every model as Maxi Cosi have proved...
I will have dig about online for an owners manual as it should be in there.
Still just looking hopefully to purchase one next year only to replace the Jazz - the FR-V is scarce over here in Greece with just 5 for sale, all over 12k euros too! Big premium over the Cmax or even a higher mileage Verso of the same year but I really like the FR-V compared with everything else in this category.
OK I`ve just had a quick look in the book.
There are about 20 pages devoted to the carriage of kids. Here`s a brief summary.
No rear facing seat in the front centre seat at any time. Ideally use an ISOFIX seat, however a seat with a top-tethering strap may be used. In all cases the seat should be pushed back to it`s most rearward point.
It then goes on about how kids of different weight should be distributed around the car....it`s a bit muddled to be honest.
There is no top-tether point on the rear centre seat and the book advises that only three Honda seats (Baby-Safe, Lord and Kid) are used.
Hope this helps somewhat.
There are about 20 pages devoted to the carriage of kids. Here`s a brief summary.
No rear facing seat in the front centre seat at any time. Ideally use an ISOFIX seat, however a seat with a top-tethering strap may be used. In all cases the seat should be pushed back to it`s most rearward point.
It then goes on about how kids of different weight should be distributed around the car....it`s a bit muddled to be honest.
There is no top-tether point on the rear centre seat and the book advises that only three Honda seats (Baby-Safe, Lord and Kid) are used.
Hope this helps somewhat.
Thanks boobles and Deerfoot - Between you and teh websites I have allteh answers now.
I have looked at the Maxi Cosi site and Britax site in more detail -
Maxi Cosi seem to show to show a different vehicle as they do not show the front middle seat at all on their car-fit guide.
Britax show the correct vehicle (6 seater in 2 rows) and actually have notes and observations from their actual fitting tests that they have conducted so top marks there regarding being thorough unlike the Maxi Cosi-site which seems to use a generic picture of an 8 seater car for both the Cmax, FR-V and Verso (3 rows - 2 seats up front and 2 rows of 3 at the back)!
I have emailed them to clarify which front passenger seat they refer to on the FR-V as it has two - the site shows teh outside one close to the door which is not the one I would use. This is important as I would like our older child who has the Tobi to ride upfront (with the seat pushed backwards as recommended by Honda though). As that seat has a proper 3 point safety belt it should work but I will await Maxi Cosi's response as to which front passenger seat they are referring to on their website.
Maxi Cosi say the Tobi fits in the rear middle seat which I find odd as it usually not recommended when the seat belt is anchored into the roof of the car. However, on some belt in seats, Britax also say the same - example a group 1-2-3 Evolva seat can be used in the middle rear seat.
For other seats the rear middle is not recommended by Britax due to lack of top tether points.
Honda should have just made all the seats bar the drivers seat with Iso-fix and top tether points for maximum flexibility...
I learnt something else on the Maxi Cosi site - the Focus Cmax has a false floor which renders the iso-fix bases from Maxi Cosi useless!
I have looked at the Maxi Cosi site and Britax site in more detail -
Maxi Cosi seem to show to show a different vehicle as they do not show the front middle seat at all on their car-fit guide.
Britax show the correct vehicle (6 seater in 2 rows) and actually have notes and observations from their actual fitting tests that they have conducted so top marks there regarding being thorough unlike the Maxi Cosi-site which seems to use a generic picture of an 8 seater car for both the Cmax, FR-V and Verso (3 rows - 2 seats up front and 2 rows of 3 at the back)!
I have emailed them to clarify which front passenger seat they refer to on the FR-V as it has two - the site shows teh outside one close to the door which is not the one I would use. This is important as I would like our older child who has the Tobi to ride upfront (with the seat pushed backwards as recommended by Honda though). As that seat has a proper 3 point safety belt it should work but I will await Maxi Cosi's response as to which front passenger seat they are referring to on their website.
Maxi Cosi say the Tobi fits in the rear middle seat which I find odd as it usually not recommended when the seat belt is anchored into the roof of the car. However, on some belt in seats, Britax also say the same - example a group 1-2-3 Evolva seat can be used in the middle rear seat.
For other seats the rear middle is not recommended by Britax due to lack of top tether points.
Honda should have just made all the seats bar the drivers seat with Iso-fix and top tether points for maximum flexibility...
I learnt something else on the Maxi Cosi site - the Focus Cmax has a false floor which renders the iso-fix bases from Maxi Cosi useless!
Finally got a FR-V yesterday so can put it to the test - 1 owner vehicle (elderly chap) in the light metallic blue with light grey leather interior. 2005 model, 57,000kms, 1,7 petrol manual SE spec with reverse sensors and floor mats pack, 11k euros which is just 1 k more than we sold the 07 Jazz CVT for - result!
Only done a short journey with but impressed so far - lovely drive, very smooth over the bumps (15inch with fat profile tyres help) compared with the Jazz but this 1,7 is about as sedate as the Jazz to but that is fine for the use this car will get. Gear stick position is great, like the hand brake too - the controls for the aircon and windows are bit far though. The seating is really great - will try it loaded up this weekend - 3 kids in kids seats and 3 adults and 2 pushchairs...
The light grey leather really lifts the interior and reminds me of my old BMW 330i sport that had the same colour seats. The only problem is that they are really dirty and cleaning 6 leather seats properly is going to take some time and elbow grease...
Only done a short journey with but impressed so far - lovely drive, very smooth over the bumps (15inch with fat profile tyres help) compared with the Jazz but this 1,7 is about as sedate as the Jazz to but that is fine for the use this car will get. Gear stick position is great, like the hand brake too - the controls for the aircon and windows are bit far though. The seating is really great - will try it loaded up this weekend - 3 kids in kids seats and 3 adults and 2 pushchairs...
The light grey leather really lifts the interior and reminds me of my old BMW 330i sport that had the same colour seats. The only problem is that they are really dirty and cleaning 6 leather seats properly is going to take some time and elbow grease...
Ela Gianni,
Ti kaneis sthn Kypro - ola kalla ekei?
Exeis kai esu ena FR-V. Edo sthn Ellada exoume mono to 1,7, oxi to 2.0l kai diesel. Ta diesel apogoreuontai stis polies kai 2,0 exo trlo telos - 1000euro kai baineis se allh taxi forous...malakies...
Bak to Agglika: I have only had the car a couple of weeks and done 1 long trip and some town driving but so far I have used both a Maxi Cosi Tobi and a Maxi Cosi Cabrio fix (with easybase) on the front middle seat and it fits well - that seat has it's own seat belt like a normal front seat as well as iso-fix. It also slides very far back which is good to keep them a bit further away from you and the dashboard as well as ensuring that the front airbag does not hit the kids (it can't be turned off).
My 2,5 year old son loves sitting up front and it very convenient as he can climb in the car with me via the drivers door and then I just get in and belt him into his seat. The little one (3mths) has travelled upfront once when she was getting restless - sitting up front and seeing her mother next to her (in the passenger seat calmed her down.
Only draw back with having the kids upfront is I lose my arm rest!
Ti kaneis sthn Kypro - ola kalla ekei?
Exeis kai esu ena FR-V. Edo sthn Ellada exoume mono to 1,7, oxi to 2.0l kai diesel. Ta diesel apogoreuontai stis polies kai 2,0 exo trlo telos - 1000euro kai baineis se allh taxi forous...malakies...
Bak to Agglika: I have only had the car a couple of weeks and done 1 long trip and some town driving but so far I have used both a Maxi Cosi Tobi and a Maxi Cosi Cabrio fix (with easybase) on the front middle seat and it fits well - that seat has it's own seat belt like a normal front seat as well as iso-fix. It also slides very far back which is good to keep them a bit further away from you and the dashboard as well as ensuring that the front airbag does not hit the kids (it can't be turned off).
My 2,5 year old son loves sitting up front and it very convenient as he can climb in the car with me via the drivers door and then I just get in and belt him into his seat. The little one (3mths) has travelled upfront once when she was getting restless - sitting up front and seeing her mother next to her (in the passenger seat calmed her down.
Only draw back with having the kids upfront is I lose my arm rest!
Ela re patrida!
Mia hara edo stin Kypro. Den pira akoma to frv, to skeftome. Pros to paron exo ena crv tou 2009 2.2d.
Back to English.
I have twins and I am waiting for the third kid. The problem is that in crv you can't fit three car seats.
How about the frv?
Why you did not keep the frv?
I am thinking of it because honda stop the producing from 2009.
Thank you!
Ta leme!
Mia hara edo stin Kypro. Den pira akoma to frv, to skeftome. Pros to paron exo ena crv tou 2009 2.2d.
Back to English.
I have twins and I am waiting for the third kid. The problem is that in crv you can't fit three car seats.
How about the frv?
Why you did not keep the frv?
I am thinking of it because honda stop the producing from 2009.
Thank you!
Ta leme!
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