s2000.............talk to me
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been having this itch for some time now, im looking for somthing more involving to drive esp for the a road blasts!
truth is, ive been wanting a s2000 for a few years now, did stig used to own one?
obv im going to have to drive one, but just wondering what peoples thoughts on them were?
going from a tourque monster to a revver is going to be some change!
dont need the rear seats, im 6'1 so will i fit?
any advice would be welcome
regards
kyle
truth is, ive been wanting a s2000 for a few years now, did stig used to own one?
obv im going to have to drive one, but just wondering what peoples thoughts on them were?
going from a tourque monster to a revver is going to be some change!
dont need the rear seats, im 6'1 so will i fit?
any advice would be welcome
regards
kyle
Try one. Compared to a big-cube V8 it will seem like a lot of hard work to make progress, but real-world they're as quick as a (non-VXR) Monaro, and they are SUCH a precise and adjustable car to drive.
What I would say though is don't expect to treat roundabouts in the same way, certainly not to start with - in the dry it's very difficult to get the back-out without being a ****, and it CAN bite - not as bad as the 'rep, but it's no Mk1 Esky either...
www.s2ki.co.uk has all the info you'll need, esp. on suspension adj. bolts - these are key to the car IMHO, as the handling is VERY dependent on the geometry.
What I would say though is don't expect to treat roundabouts in the same way, certainly not to start with - in the dry it's very difficult to get the back-out without being a ****, and it CAN bite - not as bad as the 'rep, but it's no Mk1 Esky either...
www.s2ki.co.uk has all the info you'll need, esp. on suspension adj. bolts - these are key to the car IMHO, as the handling is VERY dependent on the geometry.
k15tox said:
i am lusting after somthing more 'precise' i suppose ill just have to go out and test drive one.
cheers for the help guys, will keep you updated!
Don't bother. If you have driven or owned a V8 the S2000 will be a big dissapointment.cheers for the help guys, will keep you updated!
I owned a rev2 S2000 for about 4 years, finally part x'd it for a 350Z..
Forget about the high revving engine, the lack of torque kills the car.. Never driven a S2000 on a track, but that would only be the place you could fully exploit the engine at high revs. As for everyday driving I doubt if you could ever exploit the full power on public roads. The car suffers from too many flat spots in my opinion, you soon get fed up of getting less back than the effort to put in. This is why the car becomes tiring. Motorway driving, forget it.. The engine and drivetrain sounds knackered and will give the driver a headache after a long run..
Good points for the S. Sharp handling, slick gearbox, noise of high revving engine.
Bad points. If you have driven or owned a turbo / V6, V8 then you will notice a difference in power.
In general if your still interested I think the S2000 would be best kept as weekend, track fun car.
Qube said:
k15tox said:
i am lusting after somthing more 'precise' i suppose ill just have to go out and test drive one.
cheers for the help guys, will keep you updated!
Don't bother. If you have driven or owned a V8 the S2000 will be a big dissapointment.cheers for the help guys, will keep you updated!
I owned a rev2 S2000 for about 4 years, finally part x'd it for a 350Z..
Forget about the high revving engine, the lack of torque kills the car.. Never driven a S2000 on a track, but that would only be the place you could fully exploit the engine at high revs. As for everyday driving I doubt if you could ever exploit the full power on public roads. The car suffers from too many flat spots in my opinion, you soon get fed up of getting less back than the effort to put in. This is why the car becomes tiring. Motorway driving, forget it.. The engine and drivetrain sounds knackered and will give the driver a headache after a long run..
Good points for the S. Sharp handling, slick gearbox, noise of high revving engine.
Bad points. If you have driven or owned a turbo / V6, V8 then you will notice a difference in power.
In general if your still interested I think the S2000 would be best kept as weekend, track fun car.
Ive never "got" the whole lack of torque thing. On paper it might not be great, but ive owned numerous type R's and now an S2000, and i still dont find it a problem. Its great to have 2 cars in one. A car that can easily cruise around town below 6k RPM, then be a little weekend racer when the sun is out above 6k RPM
I can see the points above, but I think it depends on what you want from an engine, and what you're used to:-
- Honda throttle-response is pretty much unequalled, and the pre-06 cars were the last Hondas with a cable throttle. Makes you feel more involved with the car than the modern 'laggy' response from a turbo'd car with a DBW throttle (e.g. wife's Golf GTi).
- The 'racer' nature of the engine is rather marmite - it IS hard work when you're not in the mood, but how often, when you're not 'in the mood', do you want/need to use all the power of your car? Mine would keep up with the give-and-take on M-ways without dropping out of 6th usually, and I never needed lower than 5th or higher than 5,000rpm.
- I test-drove a 'vette C6 and came away underwhelmed with the engine - it just felt 'soft' in comparison to the fast Hondas I've owned, and while it was undoubtedly quick it didn't feel as quick as 400bhp should have done, plus the (slow, weighty) gearbox felt 'obstructive' to making progress.
That said, I LOVE the NSX's bigger-cube mutli-cylinder engine, next to which the S2000 does feel a little thin and under-endowed. So I'm far from immune to the appeal of larger lumps...
(Oh, and the S2000 NEVER felt slower than the wife's GTi - you just have to 'calibrate' yourself to visual perception not the 'shove in the back' that high delta-torque gives you. MX-5? Pah...
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- Honda throttle-response is pretty much unequalled, and the pre-06 cars were the last Hondas with a cable throttle. Makes you feel more involved with the car than the modern 'laggy' response from a turbo'd car with a DBW throttle (e.g. wife's Golf GTi).
- The 'racer' nature of the engine is rather marmite - it IS hard work when you're not in the mood, but how often, when you're not 'in the mood', do you want/need to use all the power of your car? Mine would keep up with the give-and-take on M-ways without dropping out of 6th usually, and I never needed lower than 5th or higher than 5,000rpm.
- I test-drove a 'vette C6 and came away underwhelmed with the engine - it just felt 'soft' in comparison to the fast Hondas I've owned, and while it was undoubtedly quick it didn't feel as quick as 400bhp should have done, plus the (slow, weighty) gearbox felt 'obstructive' to making progress.
That said, I LOVE the NSX's bigger-cube mutli-cylinder engine, next to which the S2000 does feel a little thin and under-endowed. So I'm far from immune to the appeal of larger lumps...
(Oh, and the S2000 NEVER felt slower than the wife's GTi - you just have to 'calibrate' yourself to visual perception not the 'shove in the back' that high delta-torque gives you. MX-5? Pah...
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