2004 Civic CDTI - Major Issues, Honda don't seem to care.

2004 Civic CDTI - Major Issues, Honda don't seem to care.

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LivinLaVidaLotus

Original Poster:

1,626 posts

206 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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Hi guys,

Posting here on behalf of my parents whom are having no joy at all with Honda UK over some major issues with their 2004 1.7 CDTI. It all started back in March with the car going in to Limp home mode, since then it's been in to the Honda dealership 5 or 6 times, each time costing quite a lot of money, not to mention time and inconvenience - they've had to cancel one holiday (they tow a caravan) and it looks like they are going to have to cancel another this week because of it.

Initially they thought it was an issue with the turbo, then a control valve for the injection system, now it just seems like they are guessing - each time at my parents expense. The latest really annoying thing is that the dealer just had the car for 5 days whilst they were away - parents picked the car up, got most of the way home, it went in to limp home and barely got them home safely. They managed to get it back to the dealers (who wouldn't come and collect it, and told them, "oh we expected that to happen, or it to be perfectly fine) and it took them 15 minutes to put back what they had changed (but now the engine warning light is back on) - which is really annoying, because they had the car 5 days and could have taken it for a 20 minute test drive to see if it triggered the problem.

No one seems to want to take any responsibility for the issue, the dealership say they are waiting for Honda UK to give them instructions, Honda UK (presumably someone low down the food chain) say they are waiting for the dealer to tell them what they need.

What it sounds like to me, is that Honda UK know perfectly well what the problem is, but don't want to pay for it to be fixed - As I know if I were Honda and there was a problem dragging on for 6 months with a car that couldn't be identified I'd want to know what the problem was, to see if it would affect other cars. It sounds like they know what it is, the bean-counters have done their sums on what it'll cost if they can't keep fobbing customers off.

So, does anyone have any contact details for someone at Honda who is likely to give a damn and has anyone else had similar issues with a similar period CDTI?

It's getting to the point where for the sake of my parents health (they're getting quite worked up over this now, as it's cost them well in to 4 figures now and nowhere near resolved) I'm going to go camp inside Honda UK headquarters till they sort it. I don't feel like being arrested just yet, so if anyone has any ideas/help it'll be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Edited by LivinLaVidaLotus on Friday 27th August 20:46

LivinLaVidaLotus

Original Poster:

1,626 posts

206 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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Hi,

Just checked, the turbo was replaced, a new ECU was tried and the EGR valve was replaced as well.

Thanks,

franv8

2,212 posts

243 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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I think you're going to struggle with this one - with the car being 6 years old, but best wishes for a swift and satisfactory conclusion for you and your parents.

LivinLaVidaLotus

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1,626 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Hi,

I think you mis-understand slightly,, they don't want it sorting for free, they just want it sorting and to be stop being messed around and charged for god knows how many parts and hours of labour that have done nothing to improve the situation after 6 months.

Thanks,

Old Gregg

4,443 posts

180 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Hi,

Someone here may well chime in with the answer to the problem, but in the meantime have you tried www.civinfo.com/ ?

It might be that there are more members on there with that car/engine combo than on PH.

franv8

2,212 posts

243 months

Tuesday 31st August 2010
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Nearly half the owners on Civinfo are 2.2 diesel owners - very helpful bunch. I'm looking for one as a next car and have been on there for the last few weeks, a mine of useful information and help, and a nice bunch of people on the forum too.

havoc

30,641 posts

240 months

Tuesday 31st August 2010
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That engine is an Isuzu lump that Honda bought-in while they were developing the 2.2. Older-tech and had known turbo problems (supplier issues at Garrett), but I don't know any more than that.

Sorry to hear HUK are burying their heads in the sand - they've done that for years, TBH - if it wasn't for the innate reliability of the product they'd have real problems.