Type R (EP3) Brake Squeal - Advice please!

[Chuck328]

Hi all,

New member with a here looking for some advice/help with the rear offside brake disk/calliper.

We are getting some very loud squeaking from the brake once there is some temperature in. I suspect it's due to the calliper not releasing, to that end I've pulled it all apart, applied G-clamp to the piston to try and work it. Hasn't sorted the problem. I noticed that there was hardly any movement in the piston when the clamp was on. Can anyone tell me how much movement (if it's even visible) I should expect? Also any other thoughts? The disk and pads are in fairly good nic and visually I can't see much by way of warping.

Thanks in advance!

[havoc]

Not an expert on the EP3 but Honda calipers DO need occasional maintenance to avoid seizing up, esp. the rear calipers on the fwd cars.

It could be that it's in need of a refurb - how old/what mileage is the car?

[Animal]

Chuck,

There's a chap who's posted on the thread below this one that might help.

[GingerWizard]

Put the some anti squeel shims in if you do not have any. (lots are not present as they corrode and people bin them when changing the pads) Use some copper slip on the back before replacing and hey presto squeek solved.

Its quite a common problem with civics, oh and caliper movement is minimal really, mine hardly budged, only enough to slip new pads in.

hope that helps

Gwiz

[traffman]

You can grease the sliding pins ours were jammed up .

There is also a caliper rebuild kit for the brakes.

[Chuck328]

Thanks for the replys folks, plenty to work with there!

[hondafanatic]

GingerWizard said:

Put the some anti squeel shims in if you do not have any. (lots are not present as they corrode and people bin them when changing the pads) Use some copper slip on the back before replacing and hey presto squeek solved.

Its quite a common problem with civics, oh and caliper movement is minimal really, mine hardly budged, only enough to slip new pads in.

hope that helps

Gwiz

Are the shims and easy thing to do? Have you spotted any online guides?

Cheers
David

[10 Pence Short]

havoc said:

Not an expert on the EP3 but Honda calipers DO need occasional maintenance to avoid seizing up, esp. the rear calipers on the fwd cars.

It could be that it's in need of a refurb - how old/what mileage is the car?

Do you reckon Nissin made all those calipers absolutely crap on purpose? Sometimes it feels like they did!

[havoc]

10 Pence Short said:

havoc said:

Not an expert on the EP3 but Honda calipers DO need occasional maintenance to avoid seizing up, esp. the rear calipers on the fwd cars.

It could be that it's in need of a refurb - how old/what mileage is the car?

Do you reckon Nissin made all those calipers absolutely crap on purpose? Sometimes it feels like they did!

Let's just say that Honda went to the lowest bidder when it came to the brakes...

[tommyV]

My brakes squeal too, its a nightmare! Nice to know im not the only one.

[itsnotarace]

havoc said:

10 Pence Short said:

havoc said:

Not an expert on the EP3 but Honda calipers DO need occasional maintenance to avoid seizing up, esp. the rear calipers on the fwd cars.

It could be that it's in need of a refurb - how old/what mileage is the car?

Do you reckon Nissin made all those calipers absolutely crap on purpose? Sometimes it feels like they did!

Let's just say that Honda went to the lowest bidder when it came to the brakes...

Are you serious? The calipers and standard blank discs are excellent. You can convert them from excellent to awesome with a simple pad, fluid and braided lines swap

[havoc]

itsnotarace said:

Are you serious? The calipers and standard blank discs are excellent. You can convert them from excellent to awesome with a simple pad, fluid and braided lines swap

Erm, the calipers are sliding single-pot items. Which have been known to sieze up. The disks are good, agreed, and the stock Honda pads aren't bad at all.

But we're talking solely about the calipers here...and you can't really compare a sliding single-pot to a twin-pot or (even more so) a double-sided set-up for braking efficiency.

[GingerWizard]

havoc said:

itsnotarace said:

Are you serious? The calipers and standard blank discs are excellent. You can convert them from excellent to awesome with a simple pad, fluid and braided lines swap

Erm, the calipers are sliding single-pot items. Which have been known to sieze up. The disks are good, agreed, and the stock Honda pads aren't bad at all.

But we're talking solely about the calipers here...and you can't really compare a sliding single-pot to a twin-pot or (even more so) a double-sided set-up for braking efficiency.

+1 Agreed.

Crude but efficent! comes to mind.

[itsnotarace]

havoc said:

Erm, the calipers are sliding single-pot items. Which have been known to sieze up. The disks are good, agreed, and the stock Honda pads aren't bad at all.

But we're talking solely about the calipers here...and you can't really compare a sliding single-pot to a twin-pot or (even more so) a double-sided set-up for braking efficiency.

Well I've owned mine for 6 years and they've never seized. I also regularly track it. With decent fluid such as RBF600 and decent pads (DS2500) I have not suffered brake fade on track once, although I tend to stick to 20 - 25 minute sessions because my concentration lapses after that.

Unless you're some kind of endurance racer, there is no reason to put anything bigger on there.