Light the Nurburgring Blue touchpaper and stand back . . .
Discussion
Nurburgring Blue S2000's - the colour seems to attract a lot of negative comments in some of the posts I've read but as I'm looking to buy an S2000 at the moment I'd be interested to hear peoples opinions. (There seems to be about 5 N'ring blue ones for sale for every one in another colour). Just keeping one eye on the resale/trade-in value later on. I've previously had a Speed Yellow Porsche 993 which I thought looked amazing but put a lot of people off when I came to sell it (even though it was immaculate)
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
I picked up this N'ring blue one this morning,
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1485099.htm
I think it's a much nicer colour in the flesh than in photo's.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1485099.htm
I think it's a much nicer colour in the flesh than in photo's.
Edited by andye30m3 on Saturday 13th February 18:08
andye30m3 said:
I picked up this N'ring blue one this morning,
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1485099.htm
I think it's a much nicer colour in the flesh than in photo's.
Bit of a bargain !http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1485099.htm
I think it's a much nicer colour in the flesh than in photo's.
Edited by andye30m3 on Saturday 13th February 18:08
I dont think it's a bad colour.. better than that 'orange' that I cant remember the name of.
andye30m3 said:
I picked up this N'ring blue one this morning,
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1485099.htm
I think it's a much nicer colour in the flesh than in photo's.
Sold the Integra?http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1485099.htm
I think it's a much nicer colour in the flesh than in photo's.
andye30m3 said:
Hoping it's a bargain but we'll see in time!
Sold the Integra and dropped it off to it's very happy new owner on Saturday.
looking forward to some dry roads to see how the two compare.
Funnily enough I went from a DC2 to an '03 S2000.Sold the Integra and dropped it off to it's very happy new owner on Saturday.
looking forward to some dry roads to see how the two compare.
My 2p initially:-
- Get some cross-braces fitted (front-upper and -lower as a minimum to create a box-section, and maybe upgrade the rear-lower if you've another £60 while you're at it). Makes a difference to how 'planted' the car feels.
- Then get the geometry properly sorted...given you look happy with rwd I'd suggest dial-out as much rear toe-in as possible, dial-out as much castor as possible, then dial-in some more front camber (to compensate for the lost dynamic camber at the front when you reduced castor) and maybe dial-out a little rear-camber (IMHO 2-degrees on the rears is too much unless you want to go REALLY quick around corners - the car feels more progressive and playful with less! I had 1.5 degrees on mine and it was almost a pussy-cat).
As for how they compare? I rarely pushed the S2000 to 10/10ths on the road simply because it had so much more grip, and because you had less feedback coming through. But it was precise-enough and agile enough that I didn't miss it that much (to start with...ultimately I had to get another ITR as a long-termer)...and in the wet it was a lot more fun than the ITR...when you had the space to play with it! Aside from the feedback issue my only other gripe was a slight damping imbalance at the rear when pressing very hard on less-than-smooth tarmac (cross-braces reduced but didn't eliminate this). I think it was damping anyway, but there's a couple of other thoughts on s2ki...although changing to Nitrons cures it, so it's suspension-related.
Best of luck with it, and do let us know how you get on...
Gompo said:
I thought you were quite a fan of the Integra? Or was it more of an itch that needed scratching?
yeh big fan of the integra, as a n/a hot hatch it must be one of the best ever made and I'd recommend one to anyone who was looking at similar cars. I just tend to think there's so many cars I fancy owning so don't intend to keep them all that long. I expect I'll sell the s2000 towards the end if the year but we'll see.
Other thing was having sprinted fwd cars last year I fancied trying my hand at rwd this year
havoc said:
andye30m3 said:
Hoping it's a bargain but we'll see in time!
Sold the Integra and dropped it off to it's very happy new owner on Saturday.
looking forward to some dry roads to see how the two compare.
Funnily enough I went from a DC2 to an '03 S2000.Sold the Integra and dropped it off to it's very happy new owner on Saturday.
looking forward to some dry roads to see how the two compare.
My 2p initially:-
- Get some cross-braces fitted (front-upper and -lower as a minimum to create a box-section, and maybe upgrade the rear-lower if you've another £60 while you're at it). Makes a difference to how 'planted' the car feels.
- Then get the geometry properly sorted...given you look happy with rwd I'd suggest dial-out as much rear toe-in as possible, dial-out as much castor as possible, then dial-in some more front camber (to compensate for the lost dynamic camber at the front when you reduced castor) and maybe dial-out a little rear-camber (IMHO 2-degrees on the rears is too much unless you want to go REALLY quick around corners - the car feels more progressive and playful with less! I had 1.5 degrees on mine and it was almost a pussy-cat).
As for how they compare? I rarely pushed the S2000 to 10/10ths on the road simply because it had so much more grip, and because you had less feedback coming through. But it was precise-enough and agile enough that I didn't miss it that much (to start with...ultimately I had to get another ITR as a long-termer)...and in the wet it was a lot more fun than the ITR...when you had the space to play with it! Aside from the feedback issue my only other gripe was a slight damping imbalance at the rear when pressing very hard on less-than-smooth tarmac (cross-braces reduced but didn't eliminate this). I think it was damping anyway, but there's a couple of other thoughts on s2ki...although changing to Nitrons cures it, so it's suspension-related.
Best of luck with it, and do let us know how you get on...
With regards to the geometry I think it's been done recently (well was told it has been) but I would have thought the last owner would have gone for Honda's recommendations. Is there someone in the south east who would be able to set this up in a more customized way? I would have thought in the short term I'd find the car a little more rewarding with slightly less grip but slightly more feedback.
I've not managed to find much in the way of dry tarmac yet but in the wet grip levels seam very good, it certainly doesn't break traction when turning out of junctions like the E36 M3 did.
andye30m3 said:
I've not managed to find much in the way of dry tarmac yet but in the wet grip levels seam very good, it certainly doesn't break traction when turning out of junctions like the E36 M3 did.
The engine's characteristics help there - even in the snow it behaved itself remarkably well (on Toyos, anyway), because there's not a huge amount of low-down torque/power.With my set-up, Becs and I both managed to get the back-end twitching once every-so-often pulling out of wet T-junctions if we weren't careful, but not badly and not frequently.
Geo makes a huge difference as everything is adjustable so you really can tailor the car to your style...and being front-mid engine'd there's no specific handling characteristics that you need to 'learn', or drive towards...i.e. you can set-it up to be front-led (Honda-standard spec for safety), rear-led (?!?) or neutral (my set-up...more interesting but a little more work).
Gompo said:
You two are making me want an S2000! I really like my Integra and dont see myself getting rid anytime soon, but I'm always wondering what I'll get next/in addition.
They make a good pair - S2000 for the wet (Oh 
), or the gorgeous summer's day, or the night-time cruise with the hood down and the heater up. Integra for the B-road blat, the A-road blat, and the times you need a big boot! 
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