s2000 owners - some advice please!
Discussion
Hi,
I am in the process of buying an s2000. i have decided on the car i want - 2004 GT with 30000miles. i have test driven the car and really enjoyed it. i have heard and read on forums though that the engine 'comes alive' at 6k revs. i am aware of how the vtec engine works and i currently own a clio 182 which does actually seem to boost at 5-6k revs. My question is, how much boost should i expect at 6k revs? the car i have test driven seemed fast but not really a noticable punch in the back at 6k. should i really notice it? the car was happy to rev to the red line and sounded amazing so i dont think it had any engine problems? any help or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
I am in the process of buying an s2000. i have decided on the car i want - 2004 GT with 30000miles. i have test driven the car and really enjoyed it. i have heard and read on forums though that the engine 'comes alive' at 6k revs. i am aware of how the vtec engine works and i currently own a clio 182 which does actually seem to boost at 5-6k revs. My question is, how much boost should i expect at 6k revs? the car i have test driven seemed fast but not really a noticable punch in the back at 6k. should i really notice it? the car was happy to rev to the red line and sounded amazing so i dont think it had any engine problems? any help or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
You should definitely notice the change over to VTEC. Maybe not in 1st gear, more so in 2nd and 3rd.
You need your foot planted firmly on the floor.
If it's not noticeable then I'd be questioning why. Could indicate a number of problems.
from Wikipedia:
"Switching between the two cam lobes is controlled by the ECU which takes account of engine oil pressure, engine temperature, vehicle speed, engine speed and throttle position. Using these inputs, the ECU is programmed to switch from the low lift to the high lift cam lobes when the conditions mean that engine output will be improved. At the switch point a solenoid is actuated which allows oil pressure from a spool valve to operate a locking pin which binds the high RPM cam follower to the low rpm ones."
You need your foot planted firmly on the floor.
If it's not noticeable then I'd be questioning why. Could indicate a number of problems.
from Wikipedia:
"Switching between the two cam lobes is controlled by the ECU which takes account of engine oil pressure, engine temperature, vehicle speed, engine speed and throttle position. Using these inputs, the ECU is programmed to switch from the low lift to the high lift cam lobes when the conditions mean that engine output will be improved. At the switch point a solenoid is actuated which allows oil pressure from a spool valve to operate a locking pin which binds the high RPM cam follower to the low rpm ones."
Hi, good choice.
I bought my S2000 a couple of weeks ago (previous car was a Clio 172). Personally I don't really notice the change at 6000, it's not as prominant as the 5k kick in the clio. But then due to current weather conditions and the fact I'm new to rear wheel drive I haven't been pushing it very hard, so I may notice it more as I grow more confident with it.
I bought my S2000 a couple of weeks ago (previous car was a Clio 172). Personally I don't really notice the change at 6000, it's not as prominant as the 5k kick in the clio. But then due to current weather conditions and the fact I'm new to rear wheel drive I haven't been pushing it very hard, so I may notice it more as I grow more confident with it.
Hi I recently brought an s2000 I have had it for 5 weeks now. The power delivery is different from some cars for example in a turbo car of similar power you get that push back in to the seat when you put your foot down but you dont quite get that in the s2000, seems more like a linear power delivery, but if you look at the speedo you really do move quickly. You should notice it most in second gear, well thats what I have found! Hope you injoy it as mch as I am they really are great cars!
Hot1 said:
Hi I recently brought an s2000 I have had it for 5 weeks now. The power delivery is different from some cars for example in a turbo car of similar power you get that push back in to the seat when you put your foot down but you dont quite get that in the s2000, seems more like a linear power delivery, but if you look at the speedo you really do move quickly. You should notice it most in second gear, well thats what I have found! Hope you injoy it as mch as I am they really are great cars!
thanks Hot1,i did notice the same on the test drive, i revved to 9000 rpm in 2nd gear exiting a roundabout onto a duel carriage way, when i changed into 3rd i looked at the speed and i was just hitting 70. so like you say it is a smoother power delivery than i was expecting but the car was clearly going at a good speed! i'm getting excited about collecting it now... only 2 days to wait!
mattkgb said:
Hi,
I am in the process of buying an s2000. i have decided on the car i want - 2004 GT with 30000miles. i have test driven the car and really enjoyed it. i have heard and read on forums though that the engine 'comes alive' at 6k revs. i am aware of how the vtec engine works and i currently own a clio 182 which does actually seem to boost at 5-6k revs. My question is, how much boost should i expect at 6k revs? the car i have test driven seemed fast but not really a noticable punch in the back at 6k. should i really notice it? the car was happy to rev to the red line and sounded amazing so i dont think it had any engine problems? any help or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
I previously owned a 04' S for just over 4 years. The vtec kicks in from 6k onwards, you will notice the power coming at 7500 rpm.. However the car doesn't provide the torque like a turbo to give you a punch forward. The engine is more linear.I am in the process of buying an s2000. i have decided on the car i want - 2004 GT with 30000miles. i have test driven the car and really enjoyed it. i have heard and read on forums though that the engine 'comes alive' at 6k revs. i am aware of how the vtec engine works and i currently own a clio 182 which does actually seem to boost at 5-6k revs. My question is, how much boost should i expect at 6k revs? the car i have test driven seemed fast but not really a noticable punch in the back at 6k. should i really notice it? the car was happy to rev to the red line and sounded amazing so i dont think it had any engine problems? any help or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
To get the most performance out of the car with a six speed box, you will need to use the gears combined with the revs, the Vtec kicks in at 6000rpm, which equates to 40mph - 67mph in 2nd, 60mph - 97mph in 3rd, 80mph - in 4th, etc.. Get used to the figures as there are a lot of flat spots to overcome..
On the open road the car can be great fun, once you get familiar with the engine and slick box..
Overall it's a fun car. Enjoy it.. and make sure you check the oil regularly..
I've had mine for a couple of weeks, a MY00, and I definitely notice the transition. You should be able to hear it - the noise is like nothing I've heard before in any car. If you can't hear the change in engine note there may be a problem or it could just be that the MY04 onwards are like that - I don't know.
I had a 250bhp mk1 mx5 turbo before the S and, while the turbo had boost from 3-5k rpms, the S is just as fast, just different.
I had a 250bhp mk1 mx5 turbo before the S and, while the turbo had boost from 3-5k rpms, the S is just as fast, just different.
Edited by maz8062 on Thursday 12th November 22:07
As above, you'll hear it more than feel it...the acceleration should get stronger at ~6-7k, but it's not going to be a turbo-like kick, rather a 'thickening'/strengthening of everything and a sudden realisation that yes, that IS the rev limiter you've hit while enjoying the engine note... 
havoc said:
As above, you'll hear it more than feel it...the acceleration should get stronger at ~6-7k, but it's not going to be a turbo-like kick, rather a 'thickening'/strengthening of everything and a sudden realisation that yes, that IS the rev limiter you've hit while enjoying the engine note...
I can see by your profile you have finally bought a NSX. Car looks nice in the pic.
C'mon tell us what is like to own..
Dose it live up to your expectations ?, better or worse ?..
Qube said:
havoc said:
As above, you'll hear it more than feel it...the acceleration should get stronger at ~6-7k, but it's not going to be a turbo-like kick, rather a 'thickening'/strengthening of everything and a sudden realisation that yes, that IS the rev limiter you've hit while enjoying the engine note...
I can see by your profile you have finally bought a NSX. Car looks nice in the pic.
C'mon tell us what is like to own..
Dose it live up to your expectations ?, better or worse ?..
Niggles? Steering a little slow (knew that before I bought it) and could do with a bit more feedback like the S2000 (blame elec PAS again); DBW throttle has a dead-patch at the top, but once on the move it's fine* - better than the wife's Golf; And the a/market (fast-road) brake-pads are a bit dead-feeling when cold. But that's about it. Oh, and if I want to demolish a B-road I'll still take the 'teg, as you can feel the extra weight in the NSX. Everywhere else, though...
Really need to get some opportunities to take it out and push it, but the weather's going against me now...
* If you get a 91-95 car it's got a throttle-cable and PAS was optional, but they come with a longer final-drive which blunts the performance a little. Plus every old car I saw was easily over 100k...although given this one's got 90k it probably wouldn't have mattered...
havoc said:
Qube said:
havoc said:
As above, you'll hear it more than feel it...the acceleration should get stronger at ~6-7k, but it's not going to be a turbo-like kick, rather a 'thickening'/strengthening of everything and a sudden realisation that yes, that IS the rev limiter you've hit while enjoying the engine note...
I can see by your profile you have finally bought a NSX. Car looks nice in the pic.
C'mon tell us what is like to own..
Dose it live up to your expectations ?, better or worse ?..
Niggles? Steering a little slow (knew that before I bought it) and could do with a bit more feedback like the S2000 (blame elec PAS again); DBW throttle has a dead-patch at the top, but once on the move it's fine* - better than the wife's Golf; And the a/market (fast-road) brake-pads are a bit dead-feeling when cold. But that's about it. Oh, and if I want to demolish a B-road I'll still take the 'teg, as you can feel the extra weight in the NSX. Everywhere else, though...
Really need to get some opportunities to take it out and push it, but the weather's going against me now...
* If you get a 91-95 car it's got a throttle-cable and PAS was optional, but they come with a longer final-drive which blunts the performance a little. Plus every old car I saw was easily over 100k...although given this one's got 90k it probably wouldn't have mattered...
The problem is that as humans we have a habit to compare new to old.
It's the same here i often compare the weight, steering and brakes of the 350z to the S2000..
It's only a matter of time and a few thousand miles to overcome and forget the niggles..
Enjoy.............
surprised no one else has posted but get over to www.s2ki.co.uk, there is a wealth of information there.
Otherwise I can't really add to others comments above - all spot on.
Otherwise I can't really add to others comments above - all spot on.
Gassing Station | Honda | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff