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After selling my second S2000 I've been craving a second car / toy!
I really fancy a DC2 and was wondering what the thoughts are about them stacking up for around 4 or 5 trackdays a year?
I'm asking basically due to age and the mileage they all seem to carry ( minimum of 70 seems to be the norm).
Cheers
I really fancy a DC2 and was wondering what the thoughts are about them stacking up for around 4 or 5 trackdays a year?
I'm asking basically due to age and the mileage they all seem to carry ( minimum of 70 seems to be the norm).
Cheers
Edited by Urban Sports on Tuesday 20th October 22:11
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This section of the forums isn't very busy, why not post your question in GG?
This section of the forums isn't very busy, why not post your question in GG?
Cracking track day car. I know people that run them purely as track toys, some with 140k+ miles. They have the odd problem, but that's to be expected. Certainly less issues than all the corsas that littered the gtrack at the last one I did!
Find a good one with comprehensive history and you shouldn't have too many problems.
Find a good one with comprehensive history and you shouldn't have too many problems.
VeeTEC said:
Cracking track day car. I know people that run them purely as track toys, some with 140k+ miles. They have the odd problem, but that's to be expected. Certainly less issues than all the corsas that littered the gtrack at the last one I did!
Find a good one with comprehensive history and you shouldn't have too many problems.
Find a good one with comprehensive history and you shouldn't have too many problems.
It'll stand up to track use better than most road cars. And I had an absolute ball on track in my first one.
Key points:-
- fit a baffled sump, ESPECIALLY if you plan to fit sticky rubber or modify the suspension. Not a bad idea anyway. Oil catch tank may be worthwhile too, if doing regular track days.
- go easy on the gearbox - the linkage can start to 'wear' over time, esp. with quick/aggressive changes, giving you a sloppier feel. Also, the synchro is a weakpoint on B-series gearboxes.
- budget for replacement dampers - they'll be tired after ~80-100k anyway, track-use will just accelerate this. Bushes ditto.
- Fit braided brake hoses and keep good brake discipline (regular fluid changes / cool-down laps, etc). Try and avoid a JDM-96 car as they've got 4-stud hubs and different wheels which can only take 262mm front discs - too small for fast-road, IMHO, let alone track.
Key points:-
- fit a baffled sump, ESPECIALLY if you plan to fit sticky rubber or modify the suspension. Not a bad idea anyway. Oil catch tank may be worthwhile too, if doing regular track days.
- go easy on the gearbox - the linkage can start to 'wear' over time, esp. with quick/aggressive changes, giving you a sloppier feel. Also, the synchro is a weakpoint on B-series gearboxes.
- budget for replacement dampers - they'll be tired after ~80-100k anyway, track-use will just accelerate this. Bushes ditto.
- Fit braided brake hoses and keep good brake discipline (regular fluid changes / cool-down laps, etc). Try and avoid a JDM-96 car as they've got 4-stud hubs and different wheels which can only take 262mm front discs - too small for fast-road, IMHO, let alone track.
Forza_Roma said:
Havoc, I've got a '94 JDM which has those same 4 hubs. Any advice on a decent brake conversion? The standard issue stuff is frankly scary...
Sorry, not something I've had to look into. There was a chap (drmikey) on itr-dc2 earlier this month breaking a UK Type-R, and he had the (front-only, I think) upper wishbones, 5-stud hubs (w/part-worn disks) and calipers for sale as a job-lot. Might be worth dropping him a line, see if he's still got them?!?Of course, with 5-stud hubs you'll have to get some UKDM 15" wheels or JDM 16" wheels...or pretty much any AEM 5x114 PCD set, frankly - good 15"s will clear the 282mm* disks and calipers, 16"s certainly will...
* Unless you're doing serious track work, the OE size disks and calipers are easily up to fast-road work, and moderate track-work if you get some good grooved disks.
Fast Road is fine for me, I've not even been on my first track day yet although it's a plan for the future.
Thank you for the advice, the brakes and tires all need replacing on my new 'teg so I'm going to have to investigate fully. I reckon a decent brake kit within the standard rims should be okay, the wheels need a refurb but are essentially sound.
At the moment I get the impression that if someone in front of me fancied a proper stop, I would go through them! My pals are starting to wonder why I drive 100 metres behind any other car...
FR
Thank you for the advice, the brakes and tires all need replacing on my new 'teg so I'm going to have to investigate fully. I reckon a decent brake kit within the standard rims should be okay, the wheels need a refurb but are essentially sound.
At the moment I get the impression that if someone in front of me fancied a proper stop, I would go through them! My pals are starting to wonder why I drive 100 metres behind any other car...
FR
My DC2 is just about to clock 143k miles. I have genuinely lost count of the number of trackdays I have done in it; it must be at least 20 over the last 5 years. It has also done 115 laps of the 'Ring (best BTG time: 9:07 
). I also drive to work in it every day (70 mile round trip).
For track days, I would fit some harder pads (I like EBC RedStuff, but some people don't). Over the years I have tried Bilstein shocks, Eibach springs, and poly-bushes etc., but the stock setup is the best compromise for road and track use.
The gearbox is the weak link mechanically; I replaced mine at 80k miles. If you change the oil regularly, the engine will last forever.
). I also drive to work in it every day (70 mile round trip). For track days, I would fit some harder pads (I like EBC RedStuff, but some people don't). Over the years I have tried Bilstein shocks, Eibach springs, and poly-bushes etc., but the stock setup is the best compromise for road and track use.
The gearbox is the weak link mechanically; I replaced mine at 80k miles. If you change the oil regularly, the engine will last forever.
Edited by Alex on Tuesday 1st December 17:59
Forza_Roma said:
I reckon a decent brake kit within the standard rims should be okay, the wheels need a refurb but are essentially sound.
As long as the current rims will take sufficiently-large calipers - the JDM'96 Type-R 15" rims won't take the 282mm disks and calipers, for example.Gassing Station | Honda | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff