Why so few NSX's for sale?

[blindswelledrat]

I know that they are a little rare at the best of times but theres usually one or two to choose from.
Discarding automatics there are pretty much no early cars for sale at all lately.
Is it just a coincidence or is there a reason for this?

[NoelWatson]

There were loads of good ones for sale around six months back, but recently very few - I guess this is the same for a lot of the other marques.

[blindswelledrat]

Yes, that probably explains it.
Rare at the best of times and mirroring the rest of the second hand market probably makes them non existent at the moment.
Oh well, there's always next year...

[havoc]

NoelWatson said:

There were loads of good ones for sale around six months back, but recently very few - I guess this is the same for a lot of the other marques.

Tell me about it - started looking end-June, just missed out on two nice 3.2s at the top of my budget (Imperial Blue one was up at £30k, so I ignored it as way too high...then found out it sold for my top-end! ), and since then there's been facelifts, leggy ones, or abused ones.

BSR - I can't really wait until next year - for personal reasons I'll probably have to sell it at some point during 2011...trying to decide whether to shell out for a trip to Scotland to look at that yellow one...



One quick question to the owners - do you get used to the PAS system? Found it's behaviour really surprising (and it didn't feel as natural / detailed as I'd expected) in my test-drive in a facelift car! Trouble is, the only non-PAS cars are pre-95 3.0's with the leggier gearing (and hence worse acceleration).

[NoelWatson]

havoc said:

One quick question to the owners - do you get used to the PAS system?

You do if you drive the NSX as your sole car, but coming from something else, it is noticeable at slow speeds, but when you are on it, the slowness isn't such a problem.

[havoc]

coyft said:

I've had mine in storage for the last 7 years, a 91 manual in red, I really must get it sorted. Probably needs loads of rubbers and seals replacing, anyone recommend someone good to sort it out for me?

Depends where you are. There's two very good sole-traders on the forum, but at different ends of the country.

[blindswelledrat]

coyft said:

I've had mine in storage for the last 7 years, a 91 manual in red, I really must get it sorted. Probably needs loads of rubbers and seals replacing, anyone recommend someone good to sort it out for me?

No complany exists any more to do that sort of work, so if I were you I would just get shot of it quickly.
And cheaply.
You would be a fool to do anything else.
Your not a fool are you?

[NoelWatson]

coyft said:

blindswelledrat said:

coyft said:

I've had mine in storage for the last 7 years, a 91 manual in red, I really must get it sorted. Probably needs loads of rubbers and seals replacing, anyone recommend someone good to sort it out for me?

No complany exists any more to do that sort of work, so if I were you I would just get shot of it quickly.
And cheaply.
You would be a fool to do anything else.
Your not a fool are you?

It has sentimental value, I've had it since new. It's a keeper.

Are you a member of NSXCB, there is a chap on there that is building a very good reputation for this sort of work? PM me if you need details.

[havoc]

NoelWatson said:

havoc said:

One quick question to the owners - do you get used to the PAS system?

You do if you drive the NSX as your sole car, but coming from something else, it is noticeable at slow speeds, but when you are on it, the slowness isn't such a problem.

I wasn't referring so much to the slow rack, as to the "very light, very light, f'n heavy" weighting as you increase lock. First time going into a roundabout I almost understeered off it!!!

...which led me to wonder whether it's something you do get used to, or whether an older non-PAS car might be a better bet, despite the performance deficit*?!?



* How much would changing the final drive ratio cost?

[NoelWatson]

havoc said:

NoelWatson said:

havoc said:

One quick question to the owners - do you get used to the PAS system?

You do if you drive the NSX as your sole car, but coming from something else, it is noticeable at slow speeds, but when you are on it, the slowness isn't such a problem.

I wasn't referring so much to the slow rack, as to the "very light, very light, f'n heavy" weighting as you increase lock. First time going into a roundabout I almost understeered off it!!!

...which led me to wonder whether it's something you do get used to, or whether an older non-PAS car might be a better bet, despite the performance deficit*?!?



* How much would changing the final drive ratio cost?

• hideous at a guess. I don't notice the change in weighting too much.

Personally I would go for a more recent car, put an exhaust, high flow cats and intake on it, buy a warranty from Honda and enjoy hassle free motoring.

Edited by NoelWatson on Friday 4th September 17:24

[havoc]

Aye, that was the original plan...before paucity of supply scotched any choice whatsoever! Seen any (non-sh'te) 3.2's knocking around for <£25k???

Seriously - I reckon finances mean I've got between 18 and 30 months from now before I need to sell the NSX again, most likely bottom-half of that. So the "wait for the right one" equation now has a different cost-element to it - lost time!

[trackdemon]

I think people are beginning to realize what fantastic cars they are, which combined with the paucity of supply (and then of the 'right' kind of cars within that supply) cannot help but drive prices northwords. I get the feeling that some of the cheaper cars I've seen over the last few years have either expired or been crashed after falling into the wrong hands so perhaps there's an element of simple supply<demand?

Either way, if you are looking for one to run for a year I'd suggest getting into one sooner rather than later - you might pay a little more, or get a slightly older car than your ideal, but the driving experience isn't hugely different between 3.0 & 3.2 and as long as it comes with a decent paperwork I think they are fairly depreciation proof nowadays.

I dont really follow the comments about the steering weighting up mid corner - I'm fairly sure its speed sensitive, so its light when parking etc but otherwise weights up nicely on a cross country thrash. Its not the most communicative system I've ever tried, but its far from mute & is very accurate. The steering rate is very well matched to the chassis.

[havoc]

Cheers Steve - I guess it was unfamiliarity on the test-drive.

[786fab]

the nsx not only looks beautifull like a ferrari but is aso reliable and has one of the best engines ever made

[AR]

Having had from the elusive R ( Mugen Modified )to a 3.2 and now a 3.0 I can tell you that I really hate PAS and that was the reason for my choosing an earlier car.

The 95 plus are heavier due to T reinforcements that went accross the board.

The gearing is even better if going FI and once a few extra kilos are lost it is no longer an issue.