Honda S2000 - Emission warning on dashboard
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aabbaa1980 said:
...they advised me to top up the oil.. and to call back if it persists.
Mikey is right - this is important - it's the CEL (Check Engine Light) not the emission light. If oil was the problem the oil light would have appeared, so the person at the dealership was a clueless f'ktard who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near cars.
My advice?
1) Check all fluid levels and all electrical connections.
2) Unless you desperately HAVE to take it back to Colindale, take it (gently) to another nearby Honda dealership and ask them to sort it out. That a tech at Colindale told you that scares the sh't out of me, quite frankly...
(I can personally recommend Brayley Honda in Hemel Hempstead...I use them despite living in Coventry...excellent service, good techs who know their cars...ask for Dave and say I suggested you talk to them)
3) If you know someone with an OBD-II reader, get them to READ (but not delete - important) the code(s) off the ECU (5-min job, and very straightforward), then check on www.s2ki.co.uk to find out what it is. Post up here, we'll see if we can advise...at least then the dealership can't fob you off with crap!
But don't drive the car any more than you must...and then gently. It may be something reasonably minor, it may not...until you know it's best not to take chances. If it starts flashing, stop the car and get it recovered to Honda by AA/RAC (you should have recovery with the car if it's <1 year old).
PS - do post up here whatever you do...interested to find out what it is.
PPS - s2ki a great resource.
havoc said:
Mikey is right - this is important - it's the CEL (Check Engine Light) not the emission light. If oil was the problem the oil light would have appeared, so the person at the dealership was a clueless f'ktard who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near cars.
Does the S2000 have an oil low sensor? I know the EP3 doesn't. I think you are making it seem worse than the situation is. If there was anything seriously wrong with the engine it would go into limp mode and not vtec. As it hasn't I'd have thought it would be something minor and non engine life threatening.thetrash said:
havoc said:
Mikey is right - this is important - it's the CEL (Check Engine Light) not the emission light. If oil was the problem the oil light would have appeared, so the person at the dealership was a clueless f'ktard who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near cars.
Does the S2000 have an oil low sensor? I know the EP3 doesn't. I think you are making it seem worse than the situation is. If there was anything seriously wrong with the engine it would go into limp mode and not vtec. As it hasn't I'd have thought it would be something minor and non engine life threatening.I'd have to disagree with you on your second point. I agree it's LIKELY to be something RELATIVELY minor, but that's not to say that it DEFINITELY is, and why take the chance for a day??? You may not kill the engine by VTEC'ing, but you may make it worse...
hello folks.. thanks for your great input.
I checked the oil last night.. its full.. only had it serviced about 1,000 miles ago! the guy at colindale said i should check the oil after every fuel fill up?! i should have told him that there is a 'oil low' warning sign in the s2000 but it is not showing so the oil would be okay!
I live in hendon and out of pure ease.. i.e droping it off before work colindale is better for me. if i had more time i would have defo gone to hemel! also.. i dont want to drive the car for too long as the indicator is still on!
I will defo demand for more info.
when i was crusing back home on the A406 (with the warning light on) i took it up to about 5-6,000 revs.. did not vtec it just incase. i reckon it would have vtec'ed but can not be sure.. i thnk the cut off point for the vtec is higher then 5-6,000.
The manual said it was an emission issue but i just could not see how and why the car would indicate such an issue?! anyway.. the 'engine' symbol will be looked into... hope to be vtec'ing it all over the place soon enough.
will tell them not to wash my car this time as they put scratches on it last time!
I checked the oil last night.. its full.. only had it serviced about 1,000 miles ago! the guy at colindale said i should check the oil after every fuel fill up?! i should have told him that there is a 'oil low' warning sign in the s2000 but it is not showing so the oil would be okay!
I live in hendon and out of pure ease.. i.e droping it off before work colindale is better for me. if i had more time i would have defo gone to hemel! also.. i dont want to drive the car for too long as the indicator is still on!
I will defo demand for more info.
when i was crusing back home on the A406 (with the warning light on) i took it up to about 5-6,000 revs.. did not vtec it just incase. i reckon it would have vtec'ed but can not be sure.. i thnk the cut off point for the vtec is higher then 5-6,000.
The manual said it was an emission issue but i just could not see how and why the car would indicate such an issue?! anyway.. the 'engine' symbol will be looked into... hope to be vtec'ing it all over the place soon enough.
will tell them not to wash my car this time as they put scratches on it last time!
Make sure the dealer tells you what the fault codes are or get them read independently first...
Its probably nothing serious, most commonly the Lambda sensor, but could be other issues. Generally nothing terminal, and besides its under warranty! Just don't drive like an Italian till its sorted.
Its probably nothing serious, most commonly the Lambda sensor, but could be other issues. Generally nothing terminal, and besides its under warranty! Just don't drive like an Italian till its sorted.
If you've the time I'd be asking them to put it on the machine with you there so you can see what the fault-codes are, then you can talk straight-away about what needs doing to the car:-
1) You know and you can't be fobbed off;
2) It shows you're taking an interest in your car and won't take any old BS;
3) On their current form I wouldn't trust them.
4) It gives you time to get a 2nd opinion on the work they say is required...although as it's under warranty that's less of an issue if you're happy for them to do the work.
(Don't listen to any BS about it taking ages - they can read the codes in minutes, but they like to be in control of what they do when...understandably, but given their chappy said to check the oil level and keep driving, I'd raise this point with them and say you want to know for certain what the problem is.)
I think the same light IS used for emissions, but that's a mis-labelling by the handbook - ANY fault-code will flag it up (yellow symbol on the LHS, right?).
PS - do try and get the codes - I'll make a gentleman's wager that at least one of them is P-030x (i.e. P0301, 0302...). If so, don't expect a quick fix...it's a common (but usually very minor) problem and has no single cause...
1) You know and you can't be fobbed off;
2) It shows you're taking an interest in your car and won't take any old BS;
3) On their current form I wouldn't trust them.
4) It gives you time to get a 2nd opinion on the work they say is required...although as it's under warranty that's less of an issue if you're happy for them to do the work.
(Don't listen to any BS about it taking ages - they can read the codes in minutes, but they like to be in control of what they do when...understandably, but given their chappy said to check the oil level and keep driving, I'd raise this point with them and say you want to know for certain what the problem is.)
I think the same light IS used for emissions, but that's a mis-labelling by the handbook - ANY fault-code will flag it up (yellow symbol on the LHS, right?).
PS - do try and get the codes - I'll make a gentleman's wager that at least one of them is P-030x (i.e. P0301, 0302...). If so, don't expect a quick fix...it's a common (but usually very minor) problem and has no single cause...
its all booked in for this Friday... gona do a drop off at 8am! Pick it up Sat morning!
Defo going to get a error code from them. I kinda expected the car not to have any issues.. as its a Honda and secondly its a S2000 and they are suppose to be bullet proof...
mind you i do rag the life out of it.. even if it has only done a few miles. I was expecting the car to be able to handle it. I am of course hoping its nothing to do with my heavy foot!
Looking forward to finding out...
Thanks for your advice chaps. God Bless.
Ameer.
Defo going to get a error code from them. I kinda expected the car not to have any issues.. as its a Honda and secondly its a S2000 and they are suppose to be bullet proof...
mind you i do rag the life out of it.. even if it has only done a few miles. I was expecting the car to be able to handle it. I am of course hoping its nothing to do with my heavy foot!
Looking forward to finding out...
Thanks for your advice chaps. God Bless.
Ameer.
Edited by aabbaa1980 on Tuesday 30th June 13:32
BTW as an aside, I wouldnt ever rely on the oil low warning light on any car, let alone the S. the oil warning light on cars is oil pressure, not level, basically if your oil warning light comes on, the odds are that some serious damage has already been done, and if you carry on driving it wont be long before it goes pop altogether.
Oil consumption bewteen s2ks vary dramatically, mine doesnt use a drop but some drink it like fuel, get to know yours and check it accordingly, never, ever, rely on the light!
Oil consumption bewteen s2ks vary dramatically, mine doesnt use a drop but some drink it like fuel, get to know yours and check it accordingly, never, ever, rely on the light!
annoyingly after 20 miles the warning has re-appeared. its booked in again this wednesday.
you kinda think that if your money depends on sorting out loose wires you would be able to sort it out... a 2nd booking is proper ****!
I wont blow my top... i need to take the car this weekend on a 500 mile trip.. these jokers better sort it out properly this time. I dont want to be mucking about with these people again!
you kinda think that if your money depends on sorting out loose wires you would be able to sort it out... a 2nd booking is proper ****!
I wont blow my top... i need to take the car this weekend on a 500 mile trip.. these jokers better sort it out properly this time. I dont want to be mucking about with these people again!
havoc said:
Don't mess around.
Book it into Brayley, take it there, get them to look at it properly - it wouldn't surprise me if the jokers at Colindale forgot about it, then reset it and gave you that story to fob you off.
+1 Book it into Brayley, take it there, get them to look at it properly - it wouldn't surprise me if the jokers at Colindale forgot about it, then reset it and gave you that story to fob you off.
Getting the dash out / behind the dash and checking for loose wires is anightmare and potentially long job. What's the chances, given the earlier crap response you got that they couldn't be arsed looking at it properly and just reset it...?Gassing Station | Honda | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff