A quick K20 engine question
Discussion
Hi,
I'm looking into the possibility of building a kit car (a Caterham-like) and I'm trying to decide what engine would be sutable.
I thought the 2.0 Type R engine from the Civic would make sense, thinks it's a K20A2 or something like that.
My question is how easy would it be to get it fit a RWD setup?
People are saying that the Honda motor spins to opposite way to other 4 banger motors and that I should just stick with a Zeetec or Vauxhall Red Top.
Anyone able to shed some light on this??
Thanks.
I'm looking into the possibility of building a kit car (a Caterham-like) and I'm trying to decide what engine would be sutable.
I thought the 2.0 Type R engine from the Civic would make sense, thinks it's a K20A2 or something like that.
My question is how easy would it be to get it fit a RWD setup?
People are saying that the Honda motor spins to opposite way to other 4 banger motors and that I should just stick with a Zeetec or Vauxhall Red Top.
Anyone able to shed some light on this??
Thanks.
300bhp/ton said:
RobCrezz said:
For a caterham (front engine) you might be better off with the S2000 F20C engine. (240bhp, 9000rpm).
True, but are they more expensive or rare? I really don't know but would have thought there are more CTR's?Theres one here with all the bits:
WE WILL SUPPLY COMPLETE ENGINE AND GEARBOX AS REMOVED(MINUS AC PUMP).WE ALSO INCLUDE COMPLETE ENGINE LOOM AND ECU.ENGINE MOUNTS,GEARBOX MOUNT,KEY AND SHROUD.THIS ENGINE HAS COVERED JUST 26K TAKEN FROM A 2004/5
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-S2000-ENGINE-BOX-CONVE...
£3.5k though, but it is a fantastic engine, and the s2000 gearbox is one of the best I have ever used.
300bhp/ton said:
So no one knows about the engine then....
TTT
As it's designed to drive the front-wheels in a transverse layout, and you want to turn it in-line to drive the rear-wheels, you'll either need to mate a new gearbox to it*, or somehow adapt the half-shafts exiting the K20A gearbox to a single driveshaft layout.TTT
Caterham have managed this with (successively) the Vauxhall XE, the K-series, and the Duratec series, among others. So it's not impossible by any means. But I'm not sure how much mfr help they've had, nor which gearboxes they've used.
Personally for that sort of application I'd be looking at something more plug-and-play - either an F20C, the powertrain out of a wrecked Caterfield (got to be some around!), or a more generic pre-existing FR-layout in-line 4 (e.g. 200SX, 320i...) that could be acquired cheaply from a breakers...
- K20A shares a fair bit with the F20C...worth investigating whether the F20C 'box will mate-up to it. But you then need to find an F20C 'box knocking around, which itself might not be cheap so you might be as well-off getting a full F20C and 'box and saving yourself the engineering headache...
Very few 7 style cars would accept the Type r engine without a huge bonnet bulge as it's too tall. The MNR is the onlyone I know of that would take it. http://www.mnrltd.co.uk/index2.html
From what I know from the Westfield crew, is the gearbox on an S2000 is pretty big and the gearing is wrong from the diff.There is a guy who makes a carbon fibre bell housing to attach a Ford box on,so making the transmission tunnel a lot smaller for the 7 type cars.Definately a peach of an engine to fit and has been done.The K20 is a no no.
Justin S said:
From what I know from the Westfield crew, is the gearbox on an S2000 is pretty big and the gearing is wrong from the diff.There is a guy who makes a carbon fibre bell housing to attach a Ford box on,so making the transmission tunnel a lot smaller for the 7 type cars. Definately a peach of an engine to fit and has been done.
F20C HAS been done into a Westy (I passengered in it about 5 years ago...utterly bonkers!! 
), but I'd agree that a Zetec/Duratec would be an easier fit...300bhp/ton said:
Hi,
I'm looking into the possibility of building a kit car (a Caterham-like) and I'm trying to decide what engine would be sutable.
I thought the 2.0 Type R engine from the Civic would make sense, thinks it's a K20A2 or something like that.
My question is how easy would it be to get it fit a RWD setup?
People are saying that the Honda motor spins to opposite way to other 4 banger motors and that I should just stick with a Zeetec or Vauxhall Red Top.
Anyone able to shed some light on this??
Thanks.
K20's spin clockwise, since 2001 most of Honda's engines spin clockwise now. I'm looking into the possibility of building a kit car (a Caterham-like) and I'm trying to decide what engine would be sutable.
I thought the 2.0 Type R engine from the Civic would make sense, thinks it's a K20A2 or something like that.
My question is how easy would it be to get it fit a RWD setup?
People are saying that the Honda motor spins to opposite way to other 4 banger motors and that I should just stick with a Zeetec or Vauxhall Red Top.
Anyone able to shed some light on this??
Thanks.
A customer of mine in Ireland replaced a BDA engine in a mk2 escort with a K20 over the winter, I don't know the exact details but he's described having a nightmare with the oil pressure and ended up with a dry sump then moved on to having problems with the oil not draining down from the cam cover under hard acceleration.
I'd say it's more trouble than it's worth, just use the F20c if you desperately want a 2.0 Honda vtec (and to be fair I can absolutely understand why you would)
I'd say it's more trouble than it's worth, just use the F20c if you desperately want a 2.0 Honda vtec (and to be fair I can absolutely understand why you would)
Edited by Jackel on Tuesday 5th August 17:11
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