How true is this?

How true is this?

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l80ous

Original Poster:

172 posts

230 months

Tuesday 17th April 2007
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Ive heard a rumor that a Civic Type R after a certain amount of miles re-maps its own ECU and gives itself 212BHP instead of 197BHP, True or a load of bollox?

JimboCTR

290 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th April 2007
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Never heard of that one before. Mine doesn't feel any quicker after 45000 miles!

I am sure one of the techy type r guys will be along shortly to thoroughly debunk that myth.

Jim

havoc

30,894 posts

242 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Sounds like horse. Not heard of any electronics that can re-map themselves. And with an engine like those, you're more likely to lose a few horses as they get older, not gain them.

Animal

5,342 posts

275 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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Agree with Havoc, without mods, the only way the engine would give up a few more gee-gees would be after a good running-in and a service cycle or so - if at all.

D1MAC

4,721 posts

220 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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Sounds like a load of Northampton to me - I never noticed any difference apart from the usual things, just after a service, cold weather but warmed up engine etc.

vladd

8,008 posts

272 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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My Type R is 280bhp with no modifications. I'm not sure what's wrong with yours.

jonner

142 posts

213 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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vladd said:
My Type R is 280bhp with no modifications. I'm not sure what's wrong with yours.



?????????????????

280bhp with no mods....

benjc

677 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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jonner said:
vladd said:
My Type R is 280bhp with no modifications. I'm not sure what's wrong with yours.



?????????????????

280bhp with no mods....


Look at his profile ....Not all Type R's are Hondas....

purdy84

2,172 posts

216 months

Friday 27th April 2007
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As my CTR is cosmic grey and a premier it came with 220 bhp standard.......

insanojackson

5,857 posts

251 months

Friday 27th April 2007
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What a load of pap!!! especially about the cosmin hving 220bhp

Catz

4,812 posts

218 months

Friday 27th April 2007
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insanojackson said:
What a load of pap!!! especially about the cosmin hving 220bhp


Not recognise the name Purdy from CTRO?

Reckon he just wants to start a "colours" war.

purdy84

2,172 posts

216 months

Saturday 28th April 2007
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Catz said:
insanojackson said:
What a load of pap!!! especially about the cosmin hving 220bhp


Not recognise the name Purdy from CTRO?

Reckon he just wants to start a "colours" war.


wavey

ferrisbueller

29,806 posts

234 months

Saturday 28th April 2007
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havoc said:
Sounds like horse. Not heard of any electronics that can re-map themselves. And with an engine like those, you're more likely to lose a few horses as they get older, not gain them.


Agree. There are algorithms that change fuelling and timing for things such as fuel octane etc. However, as you say, not sure how they would alter base maps, rather than put offsets etc in place.

WHy do you say "engines like those" will lose power?

havoc

30,894 posts

242 months

Sunday 29th April 2007
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ferrisbueller said:
WHy do you say "engines like those" will lose power?

High compression high performance n/asp - as it gets older it'll slowly lose a few horses here and there, due to internal wear and slight loss of compression. I'm talking years and lots of 10's of 1,000s of miles here, not just 3ys/36k.

ferrisbueller

29,806 posts

234 months

Sunday 29th April 2007
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havoc said:
ferrisbueller said:
WHy do you say "engines like those" will lose power?

High compression high performance n/asp - as it gets older it'll slowly lose a few horses here and there, due to internal wear and slight loss of compression. I'm talking years and lots of 10's of 1,000s of miles here, not just 3ys/36k.


Isn't that the same for most engines then?

havoc

30,894 posts

242 months

Sunday 29th April 2007
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ferrisbueller said:
Isn't that the same for most engines then?

I suppose so. I just figured a highly-stressed lump would be more susceptible.

purdy84

2,172 posts

216 months

Sunday 29th April 2007
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insanojackson said:
What a load of pap!!! especially about the cosmin hving 220bhp


Hows you getting on with the FN2??

insanojackson

5,857 posts

251 months

Sunday 29th April 2007
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Its going ok, No isuues apart from the minor 3trd gear issue a lot of people seem to have!

even managing 30mpg too!

Dracoro

8,798 posts

252 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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Although I don't believe this, I can see how it could be implemented. Ultimately the mapping is just a computer program run in the ECU is it not?. So, computer runs map 1 and checks mileometer, once mileage at 50k (or whatever) it then starts to use map 2 rather than map 1.

gurusan

2 posts

210 months

Monday 14th May 2007
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hehe no, the ecu definitely does NOT "remap" itself for 212bhp