Calling all CTR owners (ABP geometry??)

[craploginname]

Hi Folks

Booked in on friday to have the revised suspension geometry done by ABP and wondered what are peoples thoughts that have had this done. Didn't have long to speak to the guys as it was getting on a bit. If any ABP peronnel are members perhaps they could add their advice alongside some impartial comments if they have more time

Thanks in advance
Andy

[Saied]

Friendly, helpful team of guys at ABP. Had my CTR's geometry fettled by them last year. Not the cheapest around but they're good.

They gave me a sheet with the measurments on prior to, and after adjustment.

Made a significant difference to the car. Turn-in was more eager and understeer was resisted for longer. There was a bit more feel to the steering (much needed on the Type R!)

My tyres were changed from the pitiful Bridgestones to Yokohama Parada Spec 2's at the same time. Made a vast difference to the car; less tramlining, less noise, better ride and superior wet weather traction.


Justin

[craploginname]

Cheers Justin

What was on the before and after readout? Are we just talking angles etc or some sort of performance measure? Tracking is currently out and I asked Honda how much they'd want to re-align and re-track the wheels and they said 130 quid, and that's just for standard spec, so I thought an extra 20 for the revised geometry would be a better way to spend my money

I've had Toyo Proxis T1-S on mine for the last two years and hate them. I'm no expert but from the way the car feels I'd say the side walls weren't stiff enough. In faster corners with a few bumps the car wobbbles about too much and doesn't inspire confidence. Wet weather grip, which was what everyone said was good about these tyres, isn't good either. Just waiting for the rears to wear out now and will swap to the Yokos.

[Catz]

craploginname said:

If any ABP peronnel are members perhaps they could add their advice alongside some impartial comments if they have more time

Not sure if ABP are members here but they are members here www.civictype-r.co.uk if you want to stick up a post they have a section on the forum dedicated to them.


To whoever it may concern ... hope it's OK to add urls to other forums ... if not sorry

[Saied]

craploginname said:

What was on the before and after readout?

Sorry, i've lost the piece of paper. My settings were all over the place, though. They dialled in a bit of negative camber on the rear with a fair bit more on the front end to increase the relative front to rear grip ratio. The toe settings were also fettled to give a much sharper turn in at the slight expense of high speed straight line stability.

craploginname said:

I've had Toyo Proxis T1-S on mine for the last two years and hate them. I'm no expert but from the way the car feels I'd say the side walls weren't stiff enough.

No personal experience of the Toyo's but others have said much the same. The Yokohama Parada Spec 2 tyre offers almost as much sidewall rigidity as the OEM Bridgestone (at lower cost) but with wet weather performance and road noise suppression in a similar league as your current Toyo's.

craploginname said:

Just waiting for the rears to wear out now and will swap to the Yokos.

I reckon a little lift off oversteer should help in that department.

[craploginname]

Cheers folks

Had it all done

My wallet is considerably lighter to the tune of 700 quid (service, 2 new tyres, geometry) but what a difference

First chance I got I threw it around a roundabout (a quiet one) and managed to control the car perfectly with the throttle swapping between understeer and oversteer at will and felt everything as it happened. Basically did a few laps of said roundabout and built up the speed until the rear end progresively stepped out of line which simply needed opposite lock or lift to quell. Fantastic degree of control. I can't praise the modification enough. I urge anyone that hasn't had this done to go there now and do it. Your car gets trasfomred from something out of it's depth with a crap chassis to the most feelsome thing you'll drive. Great

Now, must go and do some overtime

[riggoletto]

Where can I get this done ????

[stew-typeR]

riggoletto said:

Where can I get this done ????

try ABP? or find out the settings they use and get someone more local to you to set it.

[rallycross]

Who can do a similar job similar results in London or the SE its too far to go all the way up there for the geo settings who can do it more locally? Any suggestions

[newts]

where are ABP based