RE: Honda Civic Type R unveiled

RE: Honda Civic Type R unveiled

Wednesday 30th August 2006

Honda Civic Type R unveiled

New car launches in Paris next month


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Honda Civic Type R concept at the London Motor Show
Honda Civic Type R concept at the London Motor Show

Honda will reveal a production version of the new Civic Type R on its biggest ever stand at the Paris Motor Show in September. At the London show in July, Honda said that the concept body on show there (see picture) was identical to the production model's exterior.

The keenly awaited Civic Type R also makes its debut in production-model guise. It'll use the same high-revving 197bhp engine as the outgoing model but in what Honda called "a more refined package for the road".

Honda's pitch for the car is that it "offers impressive performance levels with aggressive styling and improved handling characteristics to deliver enhanced predictability, responsiveness and an even more rewarding driving experience."

Alongside it on the Paris stand will be a racing variant of the new Civic Type R. Developed by JAS Motorsport – the official partner of Honda in customer racing support – the racing Civic Type R will be fully FIA homologated for 2007 track and rally events.

Honda’s F1 success will be represented on the stand by the winning RA106, as raced by Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello this season, together with the Honda RA806E V8 engine which powers this car.

There'll also be a special edition of the Honda S2000 roadster in Platinum White and with a Passion Red and Black interior.

Also on show will be a new CR-V, the revised FR-V and the recently-launched Civic Type S, as well as the gadget-laden Accord.

Alternative fuels

Honda will also be showing the latest fuel cell technology in the form of the FCX Concept car, a premium four door saloon featuring a low-floor fuel cell platform that allows a spacious cabin.

Displayed alongside, and illustrating how such vehicles might be fuelled, will be Honda’s Home Energy Station. This can generate hydrogen from a domestic gas supply, as well as generate electricity to power the home using its own fuel cells, and at the same time recover the heat produced to provide a supply of hot water -- represented at the Motor Show by a ‘home’ set complete with TV screen and wash basin producing hot water, courtesy of the Home Energy Station.

Meanwhile, the Civic Hybrid Sports concept aims to demonstrate that super-efficiency can be stylish. Fitted with deep front and rear spoilers and side skirts, the aggressive-looking body is finished in a special blue paint, and set off by chrome finish seven-spoke alloy wheels and exhaust tailpipes. The interior colour scheme uses contrasting black and white with bucket seats.

Sharing the same part of the stand, the Civic Hybrid Cut model uses cutaways and transparent body panels to expose key elements of the hybrid technology to provide a better understanding of the technology and the benefits achieved.

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Top Trump

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1,588 posts

228 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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That looks the biz, espeically in white/pearl.

jon-

16,525 posts

223 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I'll be well impressed if they leave the concept alloys on the car.

I currently drive one of the last of the old models, great little day to day car but certianly isn't the road racer like many make it out to be.

waynepixel

3,978 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I got to see the car at the London motor show, and it really looks great in the metal. Now if it was only rear wheel drive and 250Bhp turbo engine.

Edited by waynepixel on Wednesday 30th August 10:53


Edited by waynepixel on Wednesday 30th August 11:30

CivPilot

6,243 posts

247 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Top Trump said:
That looks the biz, espeically in white/pearl.


I does..... shame Honda have said it wont be available in white.

According the latest info out of Honda UK the current colours are as follows:-

Type S colours:
Deep Bronze (YR-571P)
Alabaster Silver
Milano Red
Nighthawk Black
Royal Blue
Vivid Blue
Blueish Silver

Type R Colours:
Deep Bronze (YR-571P)
Alabaster Silver
Milano Red
Nighthawk Black



It sucks, Championship white SHOULD be on the options list, so lets hope they change their mind.

insanojackson

5,859 posts

251 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I dont believe for one min it will only have 197bhp. I drive a CTR now and im sure the new one will have a power boost, if only a small one.

Its getting launcehd on this site in 2 days
www.redh.co.uk

Lensey

2,526 posts

290 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Doesn't do it for me I'm afraid hurl

bunglist

545 posts

237 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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What is this about alternative fuels nice idea but it is still using fossil fuel in the form of natural Gas, so how can this benefit the environment.

This seems like Labour Spin just change things round to make it sound better than it was before but actually it is no different.

Don Veloci

2,006 posts

288 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Honda said:
Honda's pitch for the car is that it "offers impressive performance levels with aggressive styling and improved handling characteristics to deliver enhanced predictability, responsiveness and an even more rewarding driving experience."


Oh really! As far as I know they've ditched their traditional all round double wishbone setup for a cheapy rear torsion bar. Now I'm certainly no chassis or suspension expert but how can that be a good thing.

On the engine front I think they're considering a Type-RR with more power (possibly the same motor though)

Oh, and championship white has to be an option (unless reserved for RR)

Unfortunately after a lot of thought the best view is from the inside out. Can't grow to like that ass.



Jizz Monkey

74 posts

256 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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insanojackson said:
I dont believe for one min it will only have 197bhp. I drive a CTR now and im sure the new one will have a power boost, if only a small one.

Its getting launcehd on this site in 2 days
www.redh.co.uk


I believe the torque has been increased to cope with the extra amounts of lard Honda have tacked on, but BHP stays the same.

Don't forget they are bringing out (or rumours say) a evil Type R R evil (not a typo) so they don't want to outpower the new Type R.

Can't wait for this one to come out it will be nice to compare them side by side driving so I can decide which to stick with....

Oh, thanks for the Link insanojackson

Edited by Jizz Monkey on Wednesday 30th August 13:03

CivPilot

6,243 posts

247 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Don Veloci said:
Honda said:
Honda's pitch for the car is that it "offers impressive performance levels with aggressive styling and improved handling characteristics to deliver enhanced predictability, responsiveness and an even more rewarding driving experience."


Oh really! As far as I know they've ditched their traditional all round double wishbone setup for a cheapy rear torsion bar. Now I'm certainly no chassis or suspension expert but how can that be a good thing.

On the engine front I think they're considering a Type-RR with more power (possibly the same motor though)

Oh, and championship white has to be an option (unless reserved for RR)

Unfortunately after a lot of thought the best view is from the inside out. Can't grow to like that ass.





Well according to Evo the "cheapy rear torsion bar" suspension on the normal car works very well. To paraphrase the review they commented on how after driving the car you ended up "wondering why everyone else made their suspension so complicated when Honda can make such a simple set up work so well"

Type-RR was being considered, but the idea has now officially been dropped according to an interview in this months evo (that magazine again) Honda are instead focusing on the driving experience with this car. They claim that there would not be enough customers for a stripped out road racer version. They also re-confirmed that power will stay at 197bhp.

That list of colours came from a Honda source (hence including the colour code for the new bronze). Those colours were correct as of the british motorshow and were counted as the offficial colour charts for both cars. White not listed as available at all.

eccles

13,812 posts

229 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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that rear 3/4 view reminds me of a dumpy fat version of the mazda 323!

Jizz Monkey

74 posts

256 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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CivPilot said:
Type-RR was being considered, but the idea has now officially been dropped according to an interview in this months evo (that magazine again) Honda are instead focusing on the driving experience with this car. They claim that there would not be enough customers for a stripped out road racer version. They also re-confirmed that power will stay at 197bhp.


If that's the case I think Honda are shooting themselves in the foot, and it's a damn shame mad .
The reason the original CTR sold was due to the price tag, power to weight and it's potential to mod.
I have seen countless numbers of CTRs, Golfs, Clios (list goes on) out on track days, and a lot of them have been stripped and are used everyday, not just for the track.

If there isn't enough custom why are Renault offering a Single seated Clio 197 (second seat an option) road going stripped out racer available to order now!! clap

VW Golf GTi - Several mags have hinted that VW are looking at a stripped out GTi.

No doubt other manufacturers will follow suit once they see how easily these cars sell. Here's hoping.

Edited by Jizz Monkey on Wednesday 30th August 13:22


Edited by Jizz Monkey on Wednesday 30th August 13:24

FestivAli

1,102 posts

245 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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waynepixel said:
Now if it was only rear wheel drive and 250Bhp turbo engine.

Edited by waynepixel on Wednesday 30th August 10:53


Edited by waynepixel on Wednesday 30th August 11:30


Then it wouldn't be a Civic would it? the point of cars like these is that they are a laugh and engineered of mass-produced platforms - hence cheap performance.

As for the enviroment benefits, Honda has had LEV and ULEV (ultra low emmissions vehicles) in their fleets for some time, I think I remember reading that the last Type R Civic was ULEV. Same engine, a few tweaks, bingo, better for the environment.

Looks horn, love it. Hopefully they'll sell it here (Australia), Golf Gti's are getting common.

Ali.

hoonfest

141 posts

219 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Love the look of this car, especially in white. clap They have to keep those wheels for sure. Glad they haven't hiked the BHP as it still fits in well with the rest of the range. After all as an S2000 owner I hardly want to see a 240 BHP Civic do I . Lets hope the extra weight doesn't compromise it too much.

I'm looking forward to seeing some road tests on TV from the usual suspects. driving

GIMPTON

213 posts

277 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Its growing on me, BUT will it be enough to tempt me to trade in my Integra type r (dc2) and buy onescratchchin.

I some how dont think it will, have to wait for this Type R R and continue to save for the NSX type R cloud9

turbobungle

574 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Give us a 240bhp Civic Type-R so it keeps up with the rest of the class and give the S2000 300bhp. Then everyone's happy!

bungle
www.turbobungle.com

PS. If anyone see's this car
[pic] www.turbobungle.com/pages/sam_s_m3pag.html [/pic]

Please contact me at bungle@turbobungle.com or call the police as it was nicked off my mate's drive a few days ago. It now has front splitter, different rear bumper with quad exhaust, reg.No. P61 VGE although whole thing is probably in bits by now!

hoonfest

141 posts

219 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I agree, I do think it's time for Honda to up the stakes. Too many hot hatches out there now with 240 BHP. 300 BHP S2000 hmmm now your talking.thumbup

joe_90

4,206 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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GIMPTON said:
Its growing on me, BUT will it be enough to tempt me to trade in my Integra type r (dc2) and buy onescratchchin.

I some how dont think it will, have to wait for this Type R R and continue to save for the NSX type R cloud9


I think you are right, I prefer the DC5 to the new civic (I have a s2k, but going next week for a Accord type-S, baby on way).

Jizz Monkey

74 posts

256 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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hoonfest said:
I agree, I do think it's time for Honda to up the stakes. Too many hot hatches out there now with 240 BHP. 300 BHP S2000 hmmm now your talking.thumbup


People can't handle the power in the current S2000 (237BHP + ZERO TC) , it would be carnage laugh

jon-

16,525 posts

223 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Don Veloci said:
Oh really! As far as I know they've ditched their traditional all round double wishbone setup for a cheapy rear torsion bar.


I own the 06 car, have modified suspension for my track mr2 and still thought the CTR was macpherson strut based. Learn something new every day.

[quote]www.redh.co.uk/[/quote]

I could listen to that sound clip all day, I've no idea what engine that is but i want it. Sounds like a ross between their F1 and Moto GP offerings. Possibly a GT? Do Honda even GT race?