Just how tricky is a Honda S2000?
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This happened at the weekend.
Apparently the unfortunate driver had just had his car washed at the hand car wash next to Hove train station.
I understand he was heard to say (appreciate this is hearsay) that they had used that silicon/cleaning spray on the pedals and as he pulled out his foot slipped on accelerator and got stuck.
I’ve used these sprays before (never on pedals though for obvious reasons) and yes, they are slippery.
Question is, just how tail happy is the S2000? And will it buff out?
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/20236670.cause-hov...
Apparently the unfortunate driver had just had his car washed at the hand car wash next to Hove train station.
I understand he was heard to say (appreciate this is hearsay) that they had used that silicon/cleaning spray on the pedals and as he pulled out his foot slipped on accelerator and got stuck.
I’ve used these sprays before (never on pedals though for obvious reasons) and yes, they are slippery.
Question is, just how tail happy is the S2000? And will it buff out?
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/20236670.cause-hov...
Every day a journey said:
I understand he was heard to say (appreciate this is hearsay) that they had used that silicon/cleaning spray on the pedals and as he pulled out his foot slipped on accelerator and got stuck.
1 - I've never ever heard of any hand car wash ever cleaning or applying anything to the pedals of the car, especially as the driver is usually sitting in the damn thing as they crawl from say sponging to rinsing.
2 - Surely his foot would slip off the pedal, not stay stuck on it and fully depressed?
Absolute cobblers.
It would be more likely that they’d got the tyre dressing stuff on some of the surface of the tyre as well as the edge - from experience that does rather reduce the available grip!
S2000s aren’t hugely torquey, but they can be a bit tail happy if there’s less grip available than you’d expect - certainly in my old one, if the tyres were quite worn (but still legal) then pulling out of a side road in the wet could be quite exciting if you had a lead foot…
S2000s aren’t hugely torquey, but they can be a bit tail happy if there’s less grip available than you’d expect - certainly in my old one, if the tyres were quite worn (but still legal) then pulling out of a side road in the wet could be quite exciting if you had a lead foot…
When I owned one, I was out on a club drive and two cars in front of me went off into the undergrowth at the same spot coming off a roundabout. Possibly there was some diesel on the road. I believe both were ultimately fixed under insurance (possibly 20 years ago).
What's memorable is just how quickly they can get out of shape when under acceleration and one wheel looses traction.
The slippery pedal thing, I've experienced this too on my Alfa GT - but I'm sceptical reading the article and looking at the photos. I'd go with tyre dressing being a contributory factor as the poster above has suggested.
What's memorable is just how quickly they can get out of shape when under acceleration and one wheel looses traction.
The slippery pedal thing, I've experienced this too on my Alfa GT - but I'm sceptical reading the article and looking at the photos. I'd go with tyre dressing being a contributory factor as the poster above has suggested.
Looking at the state of the car, might say speed was a contributing factor. Never heard of any car wash putting stuff on pedals
S2k can be tricky on the back end and many have been written off going into the hedge backwards with inexperienced drivers. Later ones got some sort of traction control VSA as std.
A proper geo setup by a specialist is vital to the handling on these. The suspension bolts are normally seized as well, as they never got greased from the factory and are expensive to cut out with new bushes etc, so alot are left in seized position which sure doesnt help.
S2k can be tricky on the back end and many have been written off going into the hedge backwards with inexperienced drivers. Later ones got some sort of traction control VSA as std.
A proper geo setup by a specialist is vital to the handling on these. The suspension bolts are normally seized as well, as they never got greased from the factory and are expensive to cut out with new bushes etc, so alot are left in seized position which sure doesnt help.
Edited by Retro.74 on Monday 27th June 10:43
in wet they can be a tricky if you don't know how RWD car behaves. I think the power curve is also another reason why people bin them.. if you're out of it, you grip up and it spits you out. I had mine for over 3 years and there have been some hairy moments but that's also why I love the car. It's fun and exciting to drive.
my experience with the S2000
the steering wheel feedback is bit filter, I can more easily feel I am near the limit with my E36 and MX-5, not so much in the S2000
there are no power no low end, and suddenly a surge of power when the engine switch cam profile, not as mental as those single large turbo STI or EVO but could caught you off guard
the steering wheel feedback is bit filter, I can more easily feel I am near the limit with my E36 and MX-5, not so much in the S2000
there are no power no low end, and suddenly a surge of power when the engine switch cam profile, not as mental as those single large turbo STI or EVO but could caught you off guard
Some interesting views in here, but I know from experience that the S2000 can be extremely sensitive to both throttle and steering inputs - particularly in low grip circumstances.
Either way, a shock slip off of the throttle or break could unsettle the vehicle, leading to weight transfer and rotation.
I hope the driver is ok.
Either way, a shock slip off of the throttle or break could unsettle the vehicle, leading to weight transfer and rotation.
I hope the driver is ok.
I have heard of a throttle pedal sticking under a floor mat - the mat wasn't fixed in place, slipped forwards and under WOT the pedal caught. That was a FWD car and the driver dipped clutch and turned off the engine.
Silicon spray on a brake pedal might cause a slippage but it otherwise doesn't sound a likely reason.
Silicon spray on a brake pedal might cause a slippage but it otherwise doesn't sound a likely reason.
Update issued - https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/20237490.police-is...
Basically driver was breathalysed and blew zero.
Basically driver was breathalysed and blew zero.
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