Honda Civic power?
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What’s up everyone,
I’ve been looking at buying a Honda Civic 2.2 or a type r GT (07-09 plate) obviously id prefer to get the r type but it’s just a case of insurance, I was wondering what type of power does the standard 2.2 possess?
I like cars that have enough torque to push you back into your seat, whilst also possessing a bit of speed. I know the Civic isn’t exactly a supercar but what can I expect in terms of power and performance if I have to go with the standard model?
Thanks all
I’ve been looking at buying a Honda Civic 2.2 or a type r GT (07-09 plate) obviously id prefer to get the r type but it’s just a case of insurance, I was wondering what type of power does the standard 2.2 possess?
I like cars that have enough torque to push you back into your seat, whilst also possessing a bit of speed. I know the Civic isn’t exactly a supercar but what can I expect in terms of power and performance if I have to go with the standard model?
Thanks all
Have owned my Type R for nearly 3 years now, officially they make 198bhp but its not uncommon for standard cars to make 205-210bhp. 0-60 is 6.6 seconds so on paper they are fairly quick, i find mine quicker than i was expecting and 100mph will creep up sooner than you think, however it does take some time to get used to the engine and extracting all of its power. If you can accept the performance levels are a decade behind the current 300+bhp hot hatches then i would say its a quick little car
Not driven the diesel but 140bhp is going to feel very average by today's standard's
Not driven the diesel but 140bhp is going to feel very average by today's standard's
Our two cars are a Volvo V40 D3, 2.5l 5pot diesel, 150bhp and an FN2 type-r.
The diesel has plenty of torque, but is so unresponsive and runs out of puff at about 4000 rpm! Its quick enough, but the type-r is a totally different beast, seems much faster and way more responsive.
Actually googled it and the Volvo is nearly 10s to 60!
The diesel has plenty of torque, but is so unresponsive and runs out of puff at about 4000 rpm! Its quick enough, but the type-r is a totally different beast, seems much faster and way more responsive.
Actually googled it and the Volvo is nearly 10s to 60!
A friend had a 2.2 Type S. He had his remapped to 180bhp and a lot more torque. It kept up and beat a FN Type R when we went for a drive over the tops. He said any cars before 2009 need a clutch for the remap so if you get a late 2009 or after you should be fine. He left the map on his when he sold it so someone has got a Type S with plenty of power
I'm running an FN2 CTR at the moment. Have been for about 6 months now. So here are my observations.
Performance wise i find it perfectly acceptable in standard trim but it does feel a bit underwhelming. The suspension is crashy on poor roads but none more so than any other jap performance car i've had. My Subaru's have been far worse, but stay more composed than the Civic. Undulations and bounces and bumps in the road have an effect of making the way the suspension compacts and comes back that bit more crashy and bouncy and you can feel this in the CTR and it gets a bit bouncy sometimes feeling less stable. Whereas, the subaru would be crashy but it would remain composed and poised. The civic not so much
The key of the fn2 is extracting the power and therefore how you drive it. The VTEC in standard mode comes on in my opinion too late in the rev range. In previous CTR's it felt more frenetic lower down, particularly the EP3 - even off vtec. I haven't driven the newer turbo models but i would suggest in comparing the FN2 to the EP3. The EP3 feels more on it all the time. That was actually something i didn't like in the EP3 - it was harder to drive normally. It was always pushing you to drive it hard. The FN2 doesn't mind, it's happy to let you drive it like any normal car.
The FN2 is more sedate in comparison lower in the rev range at least in feel. Alot of people don't like that. I personally find it a nice balance of everyday useability and the hot hatch side of things - a jekyll and hyde scenario.
My car has since had some additional horsepower added. The remap allowed vtec to come in earlier in the rev range, now coming on at 4100rpm instead of the 5000+rpm (can't remember now the exact figure). I've had a full manifold and exhaust fitted as well as a CAI and the car is transformed yet still feels more sedate off vtec than the older ep3 did. But along with it is also sharper and smoother to drive vs a standard fn2, with the remap and i would certainly recommend any FN2 owner to consider similar work to extract the best from the engine setup and powertrain.
To compare it to the 2.2 cdti, my best friend has one of those and it really is a good car and for all intense and purposes not that much slower than the standard type r in real world driving circumstance. It will happily keep up with the CTR. The torque is excellent and its a lovely smooth drive. But it isn't a Type R and thus its much heavier and steering is obviously effected negatively by that the more you push on. The CTR on the other hand seems to feel livelier and more purposeful the more you push, becoming more composed the quicker you go - perhaps an odd or contradictory statement, but that is how it feels driving it.
Overall, the FN2 has become a favourite of mine and i really didn't expect it to be. As a daily drive its a good balance of useability and purpose. It's not the best drivers car, for that i would head to something like an RS r26 Megane - much better. But i just like the fact i get into the honda and it does what hondas do - just goes and i have a good time doing it.
Performance wise i find it perfectly acceptable in standard trim but it does feel a bit underwhelming. The suspension is crashy on poor roads but none more so than any other jap performance car i've had. My Subaru's have been far worse, but stay more composed than the Civic. Undulations and bounces and bumps in the road have an effect of making the way the suspension compacts and comes back that bit more crashy and bouncy and you can feel this in the CTR and it gets a bit bouncy sometimes feeling less stable. Whereas, the subaru would be crashy but it would remain composed and poised. The civic not so much
The key of the fn2 is extracting the power and therefore how you drive it. The VTEC in standard mode comes on in my opinion too late in the rev range. In previous CTR's it felt more frenetic lower down, particularly the EP3 - even off vtec. I haven't driven the newer turbo models but i would suggest in comparing the FN2 to the EP3. The EP3 feels more on it all the time. That was actually something i didn't like in the EP3 - it was harder to drive normally. It was always pushing you to drive it hard. The FN2 doesn't mind, it's happy to let you drive it like any normal car.
The FN2 is more sedate in comparison lower in the rev range at least in feel. Alot of people don't like that. I personally find it a nice balance of everyday useability and the hot hatch side of things - a jekyll and hyde scenario.
My car has since had some additional horsepower added. The remap allowed vtec to come in earlier in the rev range, now coming on at 4100rpm instead of the 5000+rpm (can't remember now the exact figure). I've had a full manifold and exhaust fitted as well as a CAI and the car is transformed yet still feels more sedate off vtec than the older ep3 did. But along with it is also sharper and smoother to drive vs a standard fn2, with the remap and i would certainly recommend any FN2 owner to consider similar work to extract the best from the engine setup and powertrain.
To compare it to the 2.2 cdti, my best friend has one of those and it really is a good car and for all intense and purposes not that much slower than the standard type r in real world driving circumstance. It will happily keep up with the CTR. The torque is excellent and its a lovely smooth drive. But it isn't a Type R and thus its much heavier and steering is obviously effected negatively by that the more you push on. The CTR on the other hand seems to feel livelier and more purposeful the more you push, becoming more composed the quicker you go - perhaps an odd or contradictory statement, but that is how it feels driving it.
Overall, the FN2 has become a favourite of mine and i really didn't expect it to be. As a daily drive its a good balance of useability and purpose. It's not the best drivers car, for that i would head to something like an RS r26 Megane - much better. But i just like the fact i get into the honda and it does what hondas do - just goes and i have a good time doing it.
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