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Yes, I've had one for a year now as I didn't want to use either my GT86 (now gone) or 911 for tip/garden centre runs... I got it as the 'magic' seats mean you can get lots of stuff in (it was like owning a small van when I moved house last month)
I'm 63 but I don't hold up anyone on the twisty bits and it'll cruise all day at 80 on the motorway - they handle remarkably well but of course no one else on here will admit to ever driving one
I'm 63 but I don't hold up anyone on the twisty bits and it'll cruise all day at 80 on the motorway - they handle remarkably well but of course no one else on here will admit to ever driving one
The GE8 Jazz with the L15 Engine has a bolt on supercharger that can push 182PS; Would make a decent fiesta ST competitor!
https://youtu.be/oCPl7Er22e4 shows that they can actually be quite dynamic.
https://youtu.be/oCPl7Er22e4 shows that they can actually be quite dynamic.
My father owns one (77) and he drive it incredibly quickly - although not very well and quite dangerously at points.
He swears by it as it is bullet proof. The rear bumper is held on with duct tape and the front cable ties.
If it wasn't for the awful CVT box, it may be quite a hoot to drive.
He swears by it as it is bullet proof. The rear bumper is held on with duct tape and the front cable ties.
If it wasn't for the awful CVT box, it may be quite a hoot to drive.
Willy Nilly your thread is here! 
I've had a Jazz Hybrid for nearly three years, I never drive it slowly but it's not fast. The top speed is apparently 113mph but I've never been above 100mph in it. It's fairly noisy at 90mph.
Bad points about it are the CVT. It's a useful fuel saver but not the best for pressing on with B roads. The paddle shift helps but I would have preferred a manual, if it were offered. The ride is stiff and crashy despite the shell tending to roll on hard cornering. It wasn't made for that sort of carry on, so I don't see why they couldn't have given it a pillow-soft ride. It's also pretty slow, a little over 100bhp.
In it's favour, it's been very reliable. It's only needed a replacement brake switch in all the time I've had it, which was £60 fitted.
It's very economical and pleasant to drive, and with the Magic Seat system, it functions as a minivan when I need it to. Particularly for some of the tip runs I've done this year, where I've gutted my outhouse prior to having it knocked down for an extension to be built, I have laughed at the tip's van policy. For having such a small footprint, it manages well, even taking two six foot lengths of timber (from bootlid to right behind the gearstick). It also never seems to use any rubber or brake pad. 60mpg is easily had on a long run, though interestingly it's not really much more economical than the manual models in practice. However, road tax is cheap, insurance is very cheap and it goes a long way on a little fuel. Total running costs oer month are less than the fuel costs alone on the Jaguar XJ8 I had before it.
It also leaps off the line at traffic lights with a surprising vigour, as the skinny eco-tyres don't take much power to get rolling, and the CVT will sit at peak power continuously as you accelerate. Watching Mr. TDi in lane lurch from gear to gear as they try to keep up can be a giggle.
FWIW, I will be trading it in in the next twelve months. I now have two young kids and fancy something a bit bigger and faster. To that end, I'm eyeing up the Vectra VXR and Mercedes E350 CDi saloons and estates. I would have liked another Honda but the lack of a proper saloon does that in. The Accord has not been replaced and the Civic saloon, whilst handsome, is just not fast enough. My wife also owns a Civic, and loves it, so she may get a saloon some day.
Also, I curse whenever I get stuck behind a Jazz because they're usually driven by dithering old farts, but I try not to cause any holdup in mine.
Bad points about it are the CVT. It's a useful fuel saver but not the best for pressing on with B roads. The paddle shift helps but I would have preferred a manual, if it were offered. The ride is stiff and crashy despite the shell tending to roll on hard cornering. It wasn't made for that sort of carry on, so I don't see why they couldn't have given it a pillow-soft ride. It's also pretty slow, a little over 100bhp.
In it's favour, it's been very reliable. It's only needed a replacement brake switch in all the time I've had it, which was £60 fitted.
It's very economical and pleasant to drive, and with the Magic Seat system, it functions as a minivan when I need it to. Particularly for some of the tip runs I've done this year, where I've gutted my outhouse prior to having it knocked down for an extension to be built, I have laughed at the tip's van policy. For having such a small footprint, it manages well, even taking two six foot lengths of timber (from bootlid to right behind the gearstick). It also never seems to use any rubber or brake pad. 60mpg is easily had on a long run, though interestingly it's not really much more economical than the manual models in practice. However, road tax is cheap, insurance is very cheap and it goes a long way on a little fuel. Total running costs oer month are less than the fuel costs alone on the Jaguar XJ8 I had before it.
It also leaps off the line at traffic lights with a surprising vigour, as the skinny eco-tyres don't take much power to get rolling, and the CVT will sit at peak power continuously as you accelerate. Watching Mr. TDi in lane lurch from gear to gear as they try to keep up can be a giggle.
FWIW, I will be trading it in in the next twelve months. I now have two young kids and fancy something a bit bigger and faster. To that end, I'm eyeing up the Vectra VXR and Mercedes E350 CDi saloons and estates. I would have liked another Honda but the lack of a proper saloon does that in. The Accord has not been replaced and the Civic saloon, whilst handsome, is just not fast enough. My wife also owns a Civic, and loves it, so she may get a saloon some day.
Also, I curse whenever I get stuck behind a Jazz because they're usually driven by dithering old farts, but I try not to cause any holdup in mine.
Loyly said:
I've had a Jazz Hybrid for nearly three years, I never drive it slowly but it's not fast. The top speed is apparently 113mph but I've never been above 100mph in it. It's fairly noisy at 90mph.
Bad points about it are the CVT. It's a useful fuel saver but not the best for pressing on with B roads. The paddle shift helps but I would have preferred a manual, if it were offered. The ride is stiff and crashy despite the shell tending to roll on hard cornering. It wasn't made for that sort of carry on, so I don't see why they couldn't have given it a pillow-soft ride. It's also pretty slow, a little over 100bhp.
In it's favour, it's been very reliable. It's only needed a replacement brake switch in all the time I've had it, which was £60 fitted.
It's very economical and pleasant to drive, and with the Magic Seat system, it functions as a minivan when I need it to. Particularly for some of the tip runs I've done this year, where I've gutted my outhouse prior to having it knocked down for an extension to be built, I have laughed at the tip's van policy. For having such a small footprint, it manages well, even taking two six foot lengths of timber (from bootlid to right behind the gearstick). It also never seems to use any rubber or brake pad. 60mpg is easily had on a long run, though interestingly it's not really much more economical than the manual models in practice. However, road tax is cheap, insurance is very cheap and it goes a long way on a little fuel. Total running costs oer month are less than the fuel costs alone on the Jaguar XJ8 I had before it.
It also leaps off the line at traffic lights with a surprising vigour, as the skinny eco-tyres don't take much power to get rolling, and the CVT will sit at peak power continuously as you accelerate. Watching Mr. TDi in lane lurch from gear to gear as they try to keep up can be a giggle.
FWIW, I will be trading it in in the next twelve months. I now have two young kids and fancy something a bit bigger and faster. To that end, I'm eyeing up the Vectra VXR and Mercedes E350 CDi saloons and estates. I would have liked another Honda but the lack of a proper saloon does that in. The Accord has not been replaced and the Civic saloon, whilst handsome, is just not fast enough. My wife also owns a Civic, and loves it, so she may get a saloon some day.
Also, I curse whenever I get stuck behind a Jazz because they're usually driven by dithering old farts, but I try not to cause any holdup in mine.
What about an FD2 type R? Bad points about it are the CVT. It's a useful fuel saver but not the best for pressing on with B roads. The paddle shift helps but I would have preferred a manual, if it were offered. The ride is stiff and crashy despite the shell tending to roll on hard cornering. It wasn't made for that sort of carry on, so I don't see why they couldn't have given it a pillow-soft ride. It's also pretty slow, a little over 100bhp.
In it's favour, it's been very reliable. It's only needed a replacement brake switch in all the time I've had it, which was £60 fitted.
It's very economical and pleasant to drive, and with the Magic Seat system, it functions as a minivan when I need it to. Particularly for some of the tip runs I've done this year, where I've gutted my outhouse prior to having it knocked down for an extension to be built, I have laughed at the tip's van policy. For having such a small footprint, it manages well, even taking two six foot lengths of timber (from bootlid to right behind the gearstick). It also never seems to use any rubber or brake pad. 60mpg is easily had on a long run, though interestingly it's not really much more economical than the manual models in practice. However, road tax is cheap, insurance is very cheap and it goes a long way on a little fuel. Total running costs oer month are less than the fuel costs alone on the Jaguar XJ8 I had before it.
It also leaps off the line at traffic lights with a surprising vigour, as the skinny eco-tyres don't take much power to get rolling, and the CVT will sit at peak power continuously as you accelerate. Watching Mr. TDi in lane lurch from gear to gear as they try to keep up can be a giggle.
FWIW, I will be trading it in in the next twelve months. I now have two young kids and fancy something a bit bigger and faster. To that end, I'm eyeing up the Vectra VXR and Mercedes E350 CDi saloons and estates. I would have liked another Honda but the lack of a proper saloon does that in. The Accord has not been replaced and the Civic saloon, whilst handsome, is just not fast enough. My wife also owns a Civic, and loves it, so she may get a saloon some day.
Also, I curse whenever I get stuck behind a Jazz because they're usually driven by dithering old farts, but I try not to cause any holdup in mine.
Saloon Type R with the K20 in it. Supposedly a cracking car to drive.
Blanchimont said:
What about an FD2 type R?
Saloon Type R with the K20 in it. Supposedly a cracking car to drive.
It does look like a great car. I've always liked them but they do attract a hefty JDM tax. They're pretty expensive even with a good stack of miles on them, and I was really thinking of something a little faster. The E350 CDi probably still leads, but whatever I have next will be a six cylinder. I'm not particularly after something wild or fun, though I suppose the Vectra VXR would be a laugh, as I have a motorbike for enioyment.Saloon Type R with the K20 in it. Supposedly a cracking car to drive.
BHML said:
anyone ever seen one driven well without going too slowly or endangering other road users?
Mine gets some welly from time to time, it's not a fast car but nips along quite nicely. You've got to remember that the sort of people that buy them new tend to be ancient because they are so easy to drive, get into and out of and so practical. They're nice little cars to drive, handling is perfectly good, gear change is good, the steering is very light which can be a good or bad thing depending but I like it. Being small it can be biffed about through traffic going through gaps that don't exist to the powerfully built PHers in their lugzury SUV's, oh and don't bother trying to push in front of me because you will lose no matter how big your car is.
I'm more than happy to drive mine much faster, but am driving it pretty much as fast as I think I can get away with.
Willy Nilly said:
.. oh and don't bother trying to push in front of me because you will lose no matter how big your car is.
I always wonder if I had a crash with an SUV while driving the Jazz then surely everyone would just assume it was the SUV drivers fault? Merge points were always fun, although I did come very close to merging into a 911 once.My wife has a 1.2L one. It's a fire breathing monster... not
Despite how 99.9% of them are driven (i.e. 40mph everywhere and round roundabouts so slowly that the obligatory box of tissues on the rear parcel shelf doesn't even fall over) it can be reasonably zippy if you rev the nuts off it. I drove it yesterday with my Mum in the car and was told to "Slow down" despite only doing about 60 (60 feeling like 100mph in a normal car)
Nobody expects you to actually drive it quickly though and they'll pull out in front of you (Presumably thinking "Oh f%*k, I don't want to get stuck behind that old duffer) so you end up getting cut up all the time.
It suffers from horrendous body roll, so much so that if you even push it a teeny tiny bit it understeers quite badly. This is probably to do with the fact the seat is on stilts, so old people with bad backs don't have to lower themselves down too far. It beeps when you turn off the engine and open the door to tell you the key is still in (Which is annoying as hell, especially when you've finally got the kids to sleep after driving around aimlessly trying to get them to nod off.) as if you didn't bloody know and you'd somehow got some magic car that starts without a key and locks itself without a key. It also doesn't have automatic lights so it bings and bongs at you with a massive cacophony of noise every time you go to get out of the bloody thing.
Apart from that, it's really practical, the rear seats tip forward and you can slide a bike in the rear footwell if you take the wheels off, if you fold all the seats down it's like a mini van. It carries all 4 of us and all the stuff we have to cart around for the kids.
She loves it. I tolerate it :-D
Despite how 99.9% of them are driven (i.e. 40mph everywhere and round roundabouts so slowly that the obligatory box of tissues on the rear parcel shelf doesn't even fall over) it can be reasonably zippy if you rev the nuts off it. I drove it yesterday with my Mum in the car and was told to "Slow down" despite only doing about 60 (60 feeling like 100mph in a normal car)
Nobody expects you to actually drive it quickly though and they'll pull out in front of you (Presumably thinking "Oh f%*k, I don't want to get stuck behind that old duffer) so you end up getting cut up all the time.
It suffers from horrendous body roll, so much so that if you even push it a teeny tiny bit it understeers quite badly. This is probably to do with the fact the seat is on stilts, so old people with bad backs don't have to lower themselves down too far. It beeps when you turn off the engine and open the door to tell you the key is still in (Which is annoying as hell, especially when you've finally got the kids to sleep after driving around aimlessly trying to get them to nod off.) as if you didn't bloody know and you'd somehow got some magic car that starts without a key and locks itself without a key. It also doesn't have automatic lights so it bings and bongs at you with a massive cacophony of noise every time you go to get out of the bloody thing.
Apart from that, it's really practical, the rear seats tip forward and you can slide a bike in the rear footwell if you take the wheels off, if you fold all the seats down it's like a mini van. It carries all 4 of us and all the stuff we have to cart around for the kids.
She loves it. I tolerate it :-D
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