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Hi folks,
I'm considering an EK9, a car I've wanted to own for a while now.
A few questions.
How compliant are they on a standard(ish) setup? I'm thinking in the context of a typical B-road. I used to own a standard UK DC2, it dealt with not-so-smooth B-roads fairly well.
Also, what's the EK9 like compared to the EP3?
Cheers.
I'm considering an EK9, a car I've wanted to own for a while now.
A few questions.
How compliant are they on a standard(ish) setup? I'm thinking in the context of a typical B-road. I used to own a standard UK DC2, it dealt with not-so-smooth B-roads fairly well.
Also, what's the EK9 like compared to the EP3?
Cheers.
vtecyo said:
The Ek9 is a lot more raw than the EP3. If you've had a UKDM DC2, it'll be much like that as standard. They do drive nicely. The scene tax on them is ridiculous though, but a very very fun little car.
I agree that the prices seem ridiculous, but in the same breath they hold their money very well.They do feel like a glorified VTI. A VTI with some mods can easily keep Up with one.
A DC2 is cheaper and has more out of the box IMO, but the EK9 has the kudos and the better looks.
Butter Face said:
I agree that the prices seem ridiculous, but in the same breath they hold their money very well.
They do feel like a glorified VTI. A VTI with some mods can easily keep Up with one.
A DC2 is cheaper and has more out of the box IMO, but the EK9 has the kudos and the better looks.
A 98 spec DC2 is the one to go for really. The VTi comment is bang on as well, although there are a fair few structural differences, and the interior is much nicer (although can still be swapped). Depends if he (or she) is planning on using it as a daily or not. If not, then in truth a well set up, B18CR or even B16B swapped EG shape will run rings around them due to the weight difference.They do feel like a glorified VTI. A VTI with some mods can easily keep Up with one.
A DC2 is cheaper and has more out of the box IMO, but the EK9 has the kudos and the better looks.
Butter Face said:
I've been running one of the UK's busiest Civic forums for years and I will have an EK9 one day.
Which one if you don't mind me asking?And yes, Phoenix Yellow DC2 is a fantastic looking thing. Another case of scene tax though. And that'd before you find one with mint yellow Recaro's!
Thanks for the responses guys.
I quite like the rarity factor of the EK9 over the EP3 - you don’t see many about. The rawness is what I’d prefer considering that it’s not going to be my daily, and more of a weekend/evening toy.
I think a certain late ‘90s PlayStation game made its influence on wanting to own an EK9. Further down the line, I’d also like to experience the FD2, although compliance on UK roads may be an issue.
Regarding prices, I‘ve certainly noticed the premium EK9s tend to carry. That said, most examples I’ve come across seem to have been looked after very well, especially the ones I usually see on EK9.org.
A CW example with a Spoon N1 and shortened final drive would make me a happy man.
Cheers.
I quite like the rarity factor of the EK9 over the EP3 - you don’t see many about. The rawness is what I’d prefer considering that it’s not going to be my daily, and more of a weekend/evening toy.
I think a certain late ‘90s PlayStation game made its influence on wanting to own an EK9. Further down the line, I’d also like to experience the FD2, although compliance on UK roads may be an issue.
Regarding prices, I‘ve certainly noticed the premium EK9s tend to carry. That said, most examples I’ve come across seem to have been looked after very well, especially the ones I usually see on EK9.org.
A CW example with a Spoon N1 and shortened final drive would make me a happy man.
Cheers.
Hotted up VTi comment has weight, but then that's exactly what they are. I had an 'EK9 spec' EK4, it had the big ARB, Spoon suspension (updated EK9 OEM kit), a B16B and a quaife LSD. In all honesty, an EK9 would have been cheaper to buy and better. There is no sense building a cheap car into a better version which you can just buy.
Compliance is actually rather good for what they are. Yes, the ride is firm but by virtue of having an excellent chassis, they don't need to be overly stiff or crashy like the later revisions do to handle well. Does make me chuckle when people dump the standard suspension and replace it with cheap coilovers. What do Honda know about handling eh?
They are gutless, but at the end of the day it's a 1.6, what do you expect? Rev the nuts of it, they love it!
Compliance is actually rather good for what they are. Yes, the ride is firm but by virtue of having an excellent chassis, they don't need to be overly stiff or crashy like the later revisions do to handle well. Does make me chuckle when people dump the standard suspension and replace it with cheap coilovers. What do Honda know about handling eh?
They are gutless, but at the end of the day it's a 1.6, what do you expect? Rev the nuts of it, they love it!
Kozy said:
Compliance is actually rather good for what they are. Yes, the ride is firm but by virtue of having an excellent chassis, they don't need to be overly stiff or crashy like the later revisions do to handle well. Does make me chuckle when people dump the standard suspension and replace it with cheap coilovers. What do Honda know about handling eh?
They are gutless, but at the end of the day it's a 1.6, what do you expect? Rev the nuts of it, they love it!
I don't understand people that throw away good condition OEM dampers for some cheap generic coilovers with a horrible crashy ride and zero compliance.They are gutless, but at the end of the day it's a 1.6, what do you expect? Rev the nuts of it, they love it!
For a NA, 1.6-litre 4-pot, you can't complain with 185hp! I've had experience of the B16A2, not that powerful and gutless of course, but the engine had so much character.
Kozy said:
GS88 said:
I don't understand people that throw away good condition OEM dampers for some cheap generic coilovers with a horrible crashy ride and zero compliance.
Because it's a track car, obviously. That's er.. never seen, nor will ever see a track.Makes me sad when I see DC2s with cheap coilovers and tacky mods but hey 'live and let live' and all that.
BrotherMouzone said:
+111111111
Makes me sad when I see DC2s with cheap coilovers and tacky mods but hey 'live and let live' and all that.
One I often hear is that they make a car "sit just right" - just right for what, I'm not exactly. Certainly not "just right" to be anything like planted or stable on the road. Cars with stiff chassis and ultra stiff, zero bump compliance coilovers just make the cars pitch and bounce all over the road, where the OEM suspension versions just glide off into the distance.Makes me sad when I see DC2s with cheap coilovers and tacky mods but hey 'live and let live' and all that.
Mastodon2 said:
BrotherMouzone said:
+111111111
Makes me sad when I see DC2s with cheap coilovers and tacky mods but hey 'live and let live' and all that.
One I often hear is that they make a car "sit just right" - just right for what, I'm not exactly. Certainly not "just right" to be anything like planted or stable on the road. Cars with stiff chassis and ultra stiff, zero bump compliance coilovers just make the cars pitch and bounce all over the road, where the OEM suspension versions just glide off into the distance.Makes me sad when I see DC2s with cheap coilovers and tacky mods but hey 'live and let live' and all that.
Cheap in comparison to the OEM dampers maybe because they cost an arm and a leg! Most original dampers are now past their best or nearing the end of their life anyway so that's why a lot of people just go aftermarket.
Yes Honda got it very good from the factory but that doesn't say it cant be refined depending on your tastes. Mine felt positively boat-like when I put standard springs and dampers back on. Some prefer a firmer ride, nothing wrong with that.
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