DC5 Vs JRSC EP3
Discussion
I have the cash and am searching for the perfect ITR, however, a Supercharged EP3 has come up and I have started thinking (dangerous I know).
My dream would be a S/C DC5 but insurance and funds wont allow it, but I can feasibly run the EP3 etc.
My concern is reliability, if mapped correctly etc are there issues using these as a daily?
I haven't been in a S/C car before, so have no idea what to expect. I'm waiting for the owner to get back to me so I can go see it, but thought I'd get opinions here first.
It's that, or a Megane R26 but can't cope with that
My dream would be a S/C DC5 but insurance and funds wont allow it, but I can feasibly run the EP3 etc.
My concern is reliability, if mapped correctly etc are there issues using these as a daily?
I haven't been in a S/C car before, so have no idea what to expect. I'm waiting for the owner to get back to me so I can go see it, but thought I'd get opinions here first.
It's that, or a Megane R26 but can't cope with that
I would have thought a 400bhp turbo FWD would be horrible!
Supercharged should be lovely, nice and smooth so the wheels won't spin up nearly as much and much more responsive for subtle mid corner throttle input.
Be prepared to hand over your cash after a run in it lol. Do you know who did the install, how long ago, who mapped it, what fuel it was mapped for etc? Could be worth getting a session with a mapper if you were to buy it to get it given the once over.
Supercharged should be lovely, nice and smooth so the wheels won't spin up nearly as much and much more responsive for subtle mid corner throttle input.
Be prepared to hand over your cash after a run in it lol. Do you know who did the install, how long ago, who mapped it, what fuel it was mapped for etc? Could be worth getting a session with a mapper if you were to buy it to get it given the once over.
I'd say the EP3 and DC5 are far from similar. Only similarity is, they are both honda's
Totally different cars. I've owned 2 EP3s and a DC5, and the EP3 don't come close in terms of handling or performance.
Both great cars, but DC5 is leagues ahead, and I'd still choose the DC5 over a charged EP3. Drive one! You'll see what I mean.
Totally different cars. I've owned 2 EP3s and a DC5, and the EP3 don't come close in terms of handling or performance.
Both great cars, but DC5 is leagues ahead, and I'd still choose the DC5 over a charged EP3. Drive one! You'll see what I mean.
SCEL1SE said:
I'd say the EP3 and DC5 are far from similar. Only similarity is, they are both honda's
Totally different cars. I've owned 2 EP3s and a DC5, and the EP3 don't come close in terms of handling or performance.
Both great cars, but DC5 is leagues ahead, and I'd still choose the DC5 over a charged EP3. Drive one! You'll see what I mean.
To be fair there isn't a massive difference in performance. The interior of the DC5 is a lot better IMO, everything else is just turned up 1. The Teg is a better car than the Civic in every way, just not as big as you make out. You can't say there totally different cars, they share a lot of common parts together, have the same engine, etc.Totally different cars. I've owned 2 EP3s and a DC5, and the EP3 don't come close in terms of handling or performance.
Both great cars, but DC5 is leagues ahead, and I'd still choose the DC5 over a charged EP3. Drive one! You'll see what I mean.
robinandcamera said:
I would have thought a 400bhp turbo FWD would be horrible!
Supercharged should be lovely, nice and smooth so the wheels won't spin up nearly as much and much more responsive for subtle mid corner throttle input.
Be prepared to hand over your cash after a run in it lol. Do you know who did the install, how long ago, who mapped it, what fuel it was mapped for etc? Could be worth getting a session with a mapper if you were to buy it to get it given the once over.
Would be fun. lol Once rolling im sure it would be fine, get some sticky tyres on it, still won't chuck out stupid torque, like say a Focus RS which always helps.Supercharged should be lovely, nice and smooth so the wheels won't spin up nearly as much and much more responsive for subtle mid corner throttle input.
Be prepared to hand over your cash after a run in it lol. Do you know who did the install, how long ago, who mapped it, what fuel it was mapped for etc? Could be worth getting a session with a mapper if you were to buy it to get it given the once over.
There's a nicely turbo'd DC5 on you tube pulling away from a Nissan GTR on a rolling start hehe. Think it's around 450bhp owner said.
Grovsie26 said:
To be fair there isn't a massive difference in performance. The interior of the DC5 is a lot better IMO, everything else is just turned up 1. The Teg is a better car than the Civic in every way, just not as big as you make out. You can't say there totally different cars, they share a lot of common parts together, have the same engine, etc.
Beg to differ, there is enough to evidently notice the difference in performance. Just. Because a car shares mechanical running gear, don't make them close on the same car, ie, hatchbacks, coupes. Could spill off several marquees that use similar running gear, or identical in areas, but are totally different cars.DC5 was built for the track enthusiast, EP3 was mass produced for the general buying public.
Show me some evidence...............
The DC5 is a smidge quicker in a drag race, there is barely anything in it.
Seen it with my own eyes, and from lots of owners of both cars. Theres only about 30-40 kg between the 2 cars and the DC5 rarely makes it's quoted 217bhp due to our fuel, it's more like 205-210 at best.
I love the DC5 but take ya blinkers off.
The DC5 is a smidge quicker in a drag race, there is barely anything in it.
Seen it with my own eyes, and from lots of owners of both cars. Theres only about 30-40 kg between the 2 cars and the DC5 rarely makes it's quoted 217bhp due to our fuel, it's more like 205-210 at best.
I love the DC5 but take ya blinkers off.
SCEL1SE said:
It takes a Kpro'd EP3 to keep with a DC5. Went on plenty Honda runs, so I also know how they compare. Also owned and lived with both! So again know its form.
Suppose folk will make there own mind up, if they get to own One!!
Ive owned both as well for 18 months+ each. If it's a facelift EP3 with the lighter flywheel there is a natts bSuppose folk will make there own mind up, if they get to own One!!
k between the 2. To say there is a noticeable performance difference between the 2 is a bit misleading.SCEL1SE said:
It takes a Kpro'd EP3 to keep with a DC5. Went on plenty Honda runs, so I also know how they compare. Also owned and lived with both! So again know its form.
Suppose folk will make there own mind up, if they get to own One!!
I've been on plenty of Honda runs and put it this way, the guys pulling away from the group aren't in DC5s, they are in whatever has had the full works done to it, intake, cams, exhausts and KPRO'd to near the 240bhp mark, and that kind of modding ain't cheap, and all it takes is a Cupra R with a stage 2 map to go blowing down the road and make the whole lot look slow. But of course, that is missing the magic of the Type R family. The difference between the EP3 and the DC5 (and the DC2 and EK9 if you want to bring them into the picture) is so small as to be not worth mentioning. Suppose folk will make there own mind up, if they get to own One!!
Drive, enjoy and leave the cheap, easy remapping and "mine's faster than yours" to the turbo crowd
Mastodon2 said:
I've been on plenty of Honda runs and put it this way, the guys pulling away from the group aren't in DC5s, they are in whatever has had the full works done to it, intake, cams, exhausts and KPRO'd to near the 240bhp mark, and that kind of modding ain't cheap, and all it takes is a Cupra R with a stage 2 map to go blowing down the road and make the whole lot look slow. But of course, that is missing the magic of the Type R family. The difference between the EP3 and the DC5 (and the DC2 and EK9 if you want to bring them into the picture) is so small as to be not worth mentioning.
Drive, enjoy and leave the cheap, easy remapping and "mine's faster than yours" to the turbo crowd
Indeed lol. Though with good quality mods, and cams and intake mani, 260bhp is attainable, so i doubt a Cupra R would be flying down the road either. Drive, enjoy and leave the cheap, easy remapping and "mine's faster than yours" to the turbo crowd
Grovsie26 said:
Indeed lol. Though with good quality mods, and cams and intake mani, 260bhp is attainable, so i doubt a Cupra R would be flying down the road either.
What should be said is that a Cupra R with a few hundred quid of tuning would make the Hondas look slow, unless the Hondas had boatloads of cash spent on tuning them.But that would be missing the point.
Slightly off topic but I'm gonna slip this in here...
I've just been for a drive in my DC2 and granted the car will never be the fastest straight line weapon, but it's the way these cars contain their composure and how they can pull so well out of a corner.
That's what I feel a Type R is all about, their cross country pace.
Oh and I'd go for a DC5 mate, EP3s are ten a penny.
I've just been for a drive in my DC2 and granted the car will never be the fastest straight line weapon, but it's the way these cars contain their composure and how they can pull so well out of a corner.
That's what I feel a Type R is all about, their cross country pace.
Oh and I'd go for a DC5 mate, EP3s are ten a penny.
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