Looking at a high mileage 2.2 CDTi tomorrow
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Lots of things have been issues like clutches, exhaust manifolds and so on However I would say at that mileage it might be that all has been done so you might be ok .
wehane a 56 plate 2.2 type s with 98k on it and it has been pretty good
Lots of things have been issues like clutches, exhaust manifolds and so on However I would say at that mileage it might be that all has been done so you might be ok .
wehane a 56 plate 2.2 type s with 98k on it and it has been pretty good
I wouldnt worry bout the clutch issue too much scaremongering going on on here, unless your doing bout 80 mph in 6th and floor it you may get a slight bit of slip then, yes there is a issue but it would not stop me buying one, there good cars, dont worry bout the flywheel unless its badly distorted, but if you bought a car with over 100k on the clock and it needed a clutch i would say that is acceptable for the mileage
er no clutch issue?
I know 4 people that bought 2.2 cdti civics and all needed a clutch before 40k and all were done under warrenty including ours, and no we dont drive like that.
Clutches on 2006-9 are known to be an issue and the replacement parts were upgraded by honda , in 2009 the whole lot was changed again to finally get rid of the issue
The problem was in some cases caused by poor fitting of the cruise control switch on the clutch pedal which did not allow the clutch to fully engage causing premature wear of clutch and DMF , there were several honda tech bulletins about this whole problem.
Maybe rather than asking on here again if your really interested go to the specialist forum and do some research .
Having said all that we still rate it as a car and have no plans to get rid of ours .
I know 4 people that bought 2.2 cdti civics and all needed a clutch before 40k and all were done under warrenty including ours, and no we dont drive like that.
Clutches on 2006-9 are known to be an issue and the replacement parts were upgraded by honda , in 2009 the whole lot was changed again to finally get rid of the issue
The problem was in some cases caused by poor fitting of the cruise control switch on the clutch pedal which did not allow the clutch to fully engage causing premature wear of clutch and DMF , there were several honda tech bulletins about this whole problem.
Maybe rather than asking on here again if your really interested go to the specialist forum and do some research .
Having said all that we still rate it as a car and have no plans to get rid of ours .
Bit late to this party but if the car has had a clutch on or after late 2010 and is on a standard map it should be fine - you want the clutch with part number ending 325 ideally, Honda will tell you what's on the car if you call.
Other than the clutches there isn't much to worry about, the manifold issues seem to have been all but sorted now, the cars develop a whine from the tensioner area that's a little disconcerting but they all seem to do it eventually - i've still to determine whether it's the tensioner or alternator pulley that's causing it on my own car but i'm not too inclined to do anything about it at the moment. IMRC valves can go faulty but are a simple fix (£120ish parts), It should have had an extended service at 75k so make sure this has been done, dealer or specialist is best as they are particularly fussy with fuel & air filters that aren't from Honda. Other than that just do the same checks you would with any other car.
Out of interest what is it priced at? My 57 EX is on 83k and i've been half thinking of moving it on in the new year but the asking price for them varies wildly
Other than the clutches there isn't much to worry about, the manifold issues seem to have been all but sorted now, the cars develop a whine from the tensioner area that's a little disconcerting but they all seem to do it eventually - i've still to determine whether it's the tensioner or alternator pulley that's causing it on my own car but i'm not too inclined to do anything about it at the moment. IMRC valves can go faulty but are a simple fix (£120ish parts), It should have had an extended service at 75k so make sure this has been done, dealer or specialist is best as they are particularly fussy with fuel & air filters that aren't from Honda. Other than that just do the same checks you would with any other car.
Out of interest what is it priced at? My 57 EX is on 83k and i've been half thinking of moving it on in the new year but the asking price for them varies wildly
Just got rid of mine. Lovely engine but the car is unpleasantly sprung and damped, being a little too soft but at the same time crashing and banging over the slightest imperfection (I would drive a mile out of my way to avoid speed bumps!). Standard brakes aren't much cop either so I would always swap out the pads and disc for something with a touch more bite.
If it could go wrong it did go wrong with mine, see below a list of the issues I had.
1. Front suspension bump stops can drop causing horrendous squeaking over the slightest bump plus exposing the top of the suspension to road salt etc. Honda may cover this as it is a recognized problem.
2. Rear Suspension alignment isn't brilliant so you get a creaky rear end no damage just irritating.
3. The variable inlet tract can seize intermittently causing the car to show numerous warnings and costs about £150 to fix inc labour (Only Honda can read this error code correctly).
4. Clutch slippage can occur from 10k miles onwards and will show up in 3rd, 4th and 5th gear if you don't ease the engine into the turbo zone. Replacement clutch inc labour is about £700.
5. Dual Mass Flywheel can warp and if it goes the clutch has to be done as well. Total price for this is around £1200.
There aren't really any OEM options when it comes to the clutch so you are forced to go with Honda (EXPENSIVE) or fit a strong but difficult to live with paddle clutch (useful if you are planning on chipping the engine).
I was gutted with how this car turned out, I had hankered after one since launch as the styling was amazing and my Dad's previous model Type-R was bulletproof. I kept it for just under 2yrs but I found that I had started waiting for the next failure to happen.
Check out my garage for a timeline of the two years I had mine.
Hope this helps.
Mark
If it could go wrong it did go wrong with mine, see below a list of the issues I had.
1. Front suspension bump stops can drop causing horrendous squeaking over the slightest bump plus exposing the top of the suspension to road salt etc. Honda may cover this as it is a recognized problem.
2. Rear Suspension alignment isn't brilliant so you get a creaky rear end no damage just irritating.
3. The variable inlet tract can seize intermittently causing the car to show numerous warnings and costs about £150 to fix inc labour (Only Honda can read this error code correctly).
4. Clutch slippage can occur from 10k miles onwards and will show up in 3rd, 4th and 5th gear if you don't ease the engine into the turbo zone. Replacement clutch inc labour is about £700.
5. Dual Mass Flywheel can warp and if it goes the clutch has to be done as well. Total price for this is around £1200.
There aren't really any OEM options when it comes to the clutch so you are forced to go with Honda (EXPENSIVE) or fit a strong but difficult to live with paddle clutch (useful if you are planning on chipping the engine).
I was gutted with how this car turned out, I had hankered after one since launch as the styling was amazing and my Dad's previous model Type-R was bulletproof. I kept it for just under 2yrs but I found that I had started waiting for the next failure to happen.
Check out my garage for a timeline of the two years I had mine.
Hope this helps.
Mark
Brakes are fine IMO, i changed the pads/discs all round in may/june time OEM one's off EBC brakes, and they seem fine to me, it's no hot hatch, so it doesn't need huge brembo's they seem to stop ok. ive had mine since Feburary, and it's been flawless. It's only done 33,000 mile to be fair.
Couldn't wait to get rid of mine. Intermittent horrible clutch slip which obviously didn't happen when at the dealer. That and the suspension (crashy and noisy). The Honda dealers denial that they had ever heard of clutch issues was ultimately foiled when I gave them a photocopy of the service bulletin.
Tedious car + a lying dealer. I won't be back.
That said Honda isn't an option in my current company scheme anyway.
Tedious car + a lying dealer. I won't be back.
That said Honda isn't an option in my current company scheme anyway.
I don't know what magic Honda dealers do to their cars, but in my experience there is a massive difference between a Full Honda service history car, and a non Honda serviced car.
The Civic is a great car, but they do need to be looked after and serviced properly. Only use genuine Honda Oil filters, always use a fully synthetic 0w-30 etc etc - buy one from a Honda dealer and it may cost you more, but it's worth it.
My Accord has done 149k and is fault free, my Sister bought a Civic with 100k on it 2 years ago, and that too has been fault free, and is a lovely car to drive.
The Civic is a great car, but they do need to be looked after and serviced properly. Only use genuine Honda Oil filters, always use a fully synthetic 0w-30 etc etc - buy one from a Honda dealer and it may cost you more, but it's worth it.
My Accord has done 149k and is fault free, my Sister bought a Civic with 100k on it 2 years ago, and that too has been fault free, and is a lovely car to drive.
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