Considering a Civic Type S?

Considering a Civic Type S?

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Teddy Tedson

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5 posts

149 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Hi, first time posting here so forgive me if I've done something wrong biggrin

Last November I lost my job, which supplied a company car, so I was left jobless and without a car.
Luckily, a guy I knew offered me a couple of months work. I bought a 99 SAAB 93 from my brother-in-law for €400 which has lasted me this long without much problems. Its due an NCT/MOT now and I'm certain it won't pass.
Its time for something new. I've haven't really been thinking about changing cars up until a couple of months ago. I've just been going into a few dealers for a look but nothing really more than that. I've been looking at 'boring old st heaps'(exact words of my 12 year old nephew!)For the record, I was looking at B6 Passats and Peugeot 407's.

I went looking in a few garages with my nephew last week. We had at a 2L petrol Peugeot 407. We were supposed to look at a 2L diesel version but it had been sold earlier that day. I wasn't too pushed on a 2L petrol 407 tbh. I'd much prefer a 2L Accord or something along those lines. So we left that one and went to the next place. 1.9L TDi VW Passat, ticked all the boxes; low mileage, nice spec, nice colour. Although it was a bit out of my price range and we couldn't agree on a good price.

We said we go into the garage next door and have a look around. They had 2L petrol Passat. Really nice, with an excellent spec and an even better history.

My nephew showed me a 3.5 V6 Honda Legend (his dad drives one!) and he is Honda mad! They're a cracking looking car and I would love a V6 but unfortunately the Irish tax system turned me off that! (€1556 to tax it for the year!)

I was having a chat with a salesman about the 2L petrol Passat he had outside. Everything sounded good. And I was really, really considering it. Obviously wasn't going to buy there and then but I was going to get my brother-in-law to take a look, he knows his stuff when it comes to cars/bikes.

After we finished talking my nephew showed me a 2007 Civic which I must say looks absolutely stunning. I couldn't really get a good look at it because it was parked tightly between tow other cars. I went inside and asked for a test drive, and he just handed me the keys! This was only the standard 1.4 model though.
We pulled into a carpark and had a proper look at it. Again, it was stunning.
So we drove it back and I got talking to the salesman again. I mentioned the 1.4 was a little small and he told me he had a 1.8 Type S. I took a look at that and it looked much better. I asked if I could just see what it was like to drive and drove it for about 20 minutes. It drove superbly. And I was really happy with it.

I brought it back and told the salesman I was really interested and that I would be back with a mechanic to look at it. I brought my brother-in-law back a few days ago and he couldn't fault the car.
He's not a fan of this generation Civic but says if I'm considering one this should be the one.

I really wanted a sensible diesel which would last me 5-6 years. But this is a really nice car and I'm getting such a sweet deal! I got €950 off the original asking price and managed to get 12 months warranty, which I'm going to have him write on the receipt.

Does anyone here own a Type S? What are they like to own and run on a daily basis? Doing 18-20k miles per year. What are the known problems with these? I really can't believe I let a 12 year old convince me to almost buy something like this when I was looking at diesel Passats and Peugeots!

Thanks for reading and apologies for the long post!

TL;DR - What is a 07 Civic Type S like to own and run on a daily basis and what problems should I expect on one with 33k miles


tozerman

1,198 posts

233 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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I am a huge fan of the type s 1800, have had them as company cars for years, the engine is a peach, and the chassis is very sharp, town mpg 35ish and best long run mpg was 47, on your mileage I would consider a diesel though, but having said that I think the 1.8 is a better car ! nothing really to look out for on them but dont be surprised if the dash creaks a bit, good luck.

Cheers.....Tony..

rossub

4,764 posts

196 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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I've had a 2007 Type S diesel for 14 months and 10k miles.

I actually dont think the fuel saving is worth having, given the potential pit falls on the diesel version. The petrol version is pretty decent on fuel, so it wouldnt take much to fail on the diesel and that saving is lost. Clutches and flywheels are a known issue with the diesel. Less so injectors and fuel pumps, but there's always a risk.

Cant really think of any reason not to buy the petrol version if you want it. I expect a 40 mpg average could be attainable if most of those miles are steady cruising, whereas the diesel may achieve 55 mpg.

It should be ok at 33k miles, but check rear discs as they tend to go fairly quickly and check for any leaky shocks as I just had to replace one.

Teddy Tedson

Original Poster:

5 posts

149 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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Cheers for the replies lads. Car actually has 43k on the clock, my mistake. Wouldn't really be interested in another diesel, and I wouldn't be interested in paying tax on a 2.2. I'm going to go back with my mechanic and get him to give it a thorough inspection. If it all checks out, it'll be my new motor biggrin

Teddy Tedson

Original Poster:

5 posts

149 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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Butter Face

31,211 posts

166 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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Looks lovely.

There's not really a lot to go wrong on these tbh, they're very well built and great all round cars.

Make sure it has got good service history and check cambelt intervals, would think its due to be done about now?

Squating Neville

150 posts

162 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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Butter Face said:
Looks lovely.

There's not really a lot to go wrong on these tbh, they're very well built and great all round cars.

Make sure it has got good service history and check cambelt intervals, would think its due to be done about now?
This car does not have a cambelt, its chain driven so nothing to worry about on that side of things

Butter Face

31,211 posts

166 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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You're correct, I'm used to older B, D and H series engines.

I don't think I've ever seen one of these R series engines before.

rossub

4,764 posts

196 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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Teddy Tedson said:
Cheers for the replies lads. Car actually has 43k on the clock, my mistake. Wouldn't really be interested in another diesel, and I wouldn't be interested in paying tax on a 2.2. I'm going to go back with my mechanic and get him to give it a thorough inspection. If it all checks out, it'll be my new motor biggrin
You mean to say our UK road tax system is actually cheaper! The 2.2 Diesel is only £115 tax per year here.

Teddy Tedson

Original Poster:

5 posts

149 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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rossub said:
You mean to say our UK road tax system is actually cheaper! The 2.2 Diesel is only £115 tax per year here.
Serious man? Tax on my mothers 1L Corsa is €172! Tax on the 2.2 Civic is €925 and tax on the 1.8 is €592..

rossub

4,764 posts

196 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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How on earth does anyone afford cars in Ireland?! I dont expect the fuel is cheaper there to compensate for the extortionate road tax either.

As far as I know there are no annual road taxes in the UK that exceed £500.

Brobocop

17 posts

163 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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Not strictly relevant but I've recently acquired an EP2 (2002) Type S and it's fantastic... It does everything I could ask of it, does reasonable mpg (35ish without trying) and is still reasonably quick. VTec sounds pretty good too.

Grovsie26

1,302 posts

173 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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rossub said:
I've had a 2007 Type S diesel for 14 months and 10k miles.

I actually dont think the fuel saving is worth having, given the potential pit falls on the diesel version. The petrol version is pretty decent on fuel, so it wouldnt take much to fail on the diesel and that saving is lost. Clutches and flywheels are a known issue with the diesel. Less so injectors and fuel pumps, but there's always a risk.

Cant really think of any reason not to buy the petrol version if you want it. I expect a 40 mpg average could be attainable if most of those miles are steady cruising, whereas the diesel may achieve 55 mpg.

It should be ok at 33k miles, but check rear discs as they tend to go fairly quickly and check for any leaky shocks as I just had to replace one.
15 mpg is a rather big difference doing 20k a year.

Glosphil

4,469 posts

240 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Brobocop said:
Not strictly relevant but I've recently acquired an EP2 (2002) Type S and it's fantastic... It does everything I could ask of it, does reasonable mpg (35ish without trying) and is still reasonably quick. VTec sounds pretty good too.
I have a late 2005 Type-S 2-litre that I have owned for 5½ years/63K miles. I have kept accurate fuel purchased records and it has averaged 32½mpg in the time I have owned it. The best I have seen is 36mpg when covering 1500 miles in a week and a half in France.

Jusr thought, is yours the 1.6-litre?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Glosphil said:
I have a late 2005 Type-S 2-litre that I have owned for 5½ years/63K miles. I have kept accurate fuel purchased records and it has averaged 32½mpg in the time I have owned it. The best I have seen is 36mpg when covering 1500 miles in a week and a half in France.

Jusr thought, is yours the 1.6-litre?
There is no 1.6L "Type S", there is only an 1.6 Sport, 1.6 SE and 1.6 S.

Your Type S does sound a bit thirsty, I'm managing 30-36 mpg from my Type R depending on how often I venture into the VTEC zone. It's the first car I've had in a long while that actually rewards you for taking it easy.

gbduo

66 posts

165 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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mpg worries on Pistonheads?! Well I never...

Grovsie26

1,302 posts

173 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Mr2Mike said:
There is no 1.6L "Type S", there is only an 1.6 Sport, 1.6 SE and 1.6 S.

Your Type S does sound a bit thirsty, I'm managing 30-36 mpg from my Type R depending on how often I venture into the VTEC zone. It's the first car I've had in a long while that actually rewards you for taking it easy.
36 mpg out of a CTR? Do you no what the pedal on the right does? lol.

pistonchris

835 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I've just got rid of my 11 plate 1.4 type s was a ok car.
The ride was really crashy and stiff though and i found the brakes fade really quick other then that it was a good car got 49mpg out of mine.
Only problem i had with mine was the fact it was a 1.4 it really needed a bigger engine.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Grovsie26 said:
36 mpg out of a CTR? Do you no what the pedal on the right does? lol.
yes I'm not a slow driver. I managed 36mpg over two tanks of fuel by sticking to 70-75mph on the DCW section of my 60 mile round trip commute, sticking to the limit on B roads and not going mad on acceleration by short shifting. I don't usually have to do much start/stop town traffic which helps hugely. It was a little boring though.

The previous owner showed me a book with every fuel quantity and mileage listed and he managed 42mpg on a few occasions, though he admitted that was sticking to 65mph max.

Driving at my "normal" speeds with an occasional VTEC it's returning 30-33mpg. I'm pleased to finally own a car that actually rewards relatively restrained driving, my previous car gave about 3mpg difference between granny mode and thrashing it so there was no point in driving it slowly.

Grovsie26

1,302 posts

173 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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I rarely saw over 30 in mine. biggrin