Older EP3 Type Rs.. How are they taking the miles?

Older EP3 Type Rs.. How are they taking the miles?

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Conor D

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2,124 posts

180 months

Saturday 24th December 2011
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I've always been a big fan of the EP3 Civic Type R, but with alot of them starting to put on the miles how are they holding up? I've heard some stories about the Gearboxes, but haven't looked into it much.

Are they still as reliable at around 60'000-70'000 miles?

BaronVonVTEC

397 posts

189 months

Saturday 24th December 2011
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I had an Integra Type R for 3 years and maintained it religiously. The car is quite a bit older than an EP3 and the only problem I had was a seized rear brake caliper. Honda reliability is pretty legendary and i'd say that if you can find a good, well looked after EP3 then you'll get many years of trouble free motoring from it.

bazza1000

294 posts

157 months

Sunday 25th December 2011
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Brilliant engines, pretty much bullet proof as long as looked after. Top Honda build quality so will still be going strong many years from now I'm sure!

ermi

33 posts

159 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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Friend of mine has his civic from new (2005) and has done 162´000 miles. Probably 6-8 trackdays per year and now running 260-270hp. Car has original gearbox with Hondas Lsd. So I´d say they are reliable.

M12KWX

382 posts

219 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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Mine has 120k miles on it (bought with 70k 2 years ago).
Serviced once a year.

Just flew through MOT before the weekend needing a bulb.

Original clutch. Needs tyres and front brakes almost yearly. Replaced radiator last year as sprung a leak.
It is driven like it should be (hence needing new discs and pads yearly!!)

In short, taking the miles very very well indeed!

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

212 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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A strong car that can be very reliable trouble is like a lot of similar cars is that they are in the hands of people that cant afford to look after them i recently looked at one with 100k & it was knackered (noisy engine, slipping clutch, rusty arches & more) so buy carefully as its easy to tart a rough one up to ship it out.

Imho best to buy private on condition alone, boughtfrom someone who is enthusiatic about the car it may have seen the redline a bit more often than others but it will have also been looked after better smile

Mastodon2

13,888 posts

170 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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neiljohnson said:
A strong car that can be very reliable trouble is like a lot of similar cars is that they are in the hands of people that cant afford to look after them i recently looked at one with 100k & it was knackered (noisy engine, slipping clutch, rusty arches & more) so buy carefully as its easy to tart a rough one up to ship it out.

Imho best to buy private on condition alone, boughtfrom someone who is enthusiatic about the car it may have seen the redline a bit more often than others but it will have also been looked after better smile
Rusted arches on a post-2000 Honda?!

Mine is a 2005 on 90K and it feels absolutely brilliant. Had a blow between the downpipe and the cat recently, which was a 10 minute fix, other than it has been spot on. The only thing that might annoy is the glass vibrating in the window over bumpier roads, but in a car with little sound deadening you notice these kind of noises more. I would rather go the Type R route of less sound-proofing for less weight and live with a few squeaks and rattles than go the VAG route of damping and deadening all wind and road noise at the expense of keeping the weight down.

I will only be doing low miles in the near future as I'm shortening my commute somewhat, so I won't be piling the miles on it, but tbh these cars feel like they would run forever as long as you treat them with some basic respect. I love mine to bits!

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

212 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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Mastodon2 said:
Rusted arches on a post-2000 Honda?!

Mine is a 2005 on 90K and it feels absolutely brilliant. Had a blow between the downpipe and the cat recently, which was a 10 minute fix, other than it has been spot on. The only thing that might annoy is the glass vibrating in the window over bumpier roads, but in a car with little sound deadening you notice these
kind of noises more. I would rather go the Type R route of less sound-proofing for less weight and live with a few squeaks and rattles than go the VAG route of damping and deadening
all wind and road noise at the expense of keeping the weight down.

I will only be doing low miles in the near future as I'm shortening my
commute somewhat, so I won't be piling the miles on it, but tbh these cars feel like they would run forever as long as you treat them with some
basic respect. I love mine to bits!
Yes both rear arches at the front (one was very bad)edges & also where they met the bumper & One front arch as well, it does not matter what car it is if it's not looked after it will fall to bits

Chris Peacock

815 posts

213 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Mine's an '02 and has 68k on the clock, still as tight as a drum, the only thing it has needed in my 5 years of ownerhip is a new radiator,new tyres and a set of front pads......500 quids worth iirc (I was toying with a clio 182 and a stone went through the rad at 120 leptons, so my fault really!)

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

203 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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my late 05' CTR has 56k on the clock and is really really strong at the moment, car seems to get better and better.

No probs apart from pads and discs wearing out wink

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

212 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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Rads are common due to the open mouth design of the bumper that often get stone etc damaging them but the rads are cheap & easy to replace so not something to worry about

bornlucky1

14 posts

181 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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mines a 2003, 80k, done literally dozens of track days, never had a single problem that wasnt general wear and tear.

the one above with the rust must have been poorly damage repaired. i've never seen heavy rusting on any ep3.

Chris Peacock

815 posts

213 months

Saturday 31st December 2011
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There is a guy on here (thetrash1),

He had an 02 ctr with a rotrex 'charger.....it was dyno'd at 399 bhp, it also had standard pistons,rods and bearings.
Iirc it also had a standard clutch put back in after a clutchmasters 400 clutch went bang on a track day !

And it survived to tell the tale.


Honda over-engineering at its best.

ClintonB

4,721 posts

218 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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Just to add a little balance, mine was developing a habit of lunching on bits of itself from less than 50k (which wasn't an abused <50k in any way), as was that of a chap I met at the time. Suspension & steering would seem to be weak but the engine wasn't immune from issues either.


TBH, based on experience, I'd trust a fat lump of Ford/Volvo/Audi 70s pig iron than VTEC-Yo. Shame really as I genuinely don't want to have that view, but I can't help but - when Ford, Vauxhall & even Rover hand you some reliability whoop-ass, it is a touch difficult.

britsportscars

281 posts

183 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Mines on 91k and feeling strong. I love it, the engine feels and sounds just as strong as when I got it at about 30k.

Brilliant cars, mine is for sale now too. PM me if you are interested!

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

222 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Ran mine for 125,000 miles in 23 months.

Had to replace the steering rack twice, the electronic control unit a couple of times. The gearbox was replaced, as was the exhaust manifold. Paint quality is relatively atrocious is is the lacquer on the alloy wheels (which may have been improved on later cars- I had all 4 replaced under warranty). Front ARB can become loose and rear suspension arms on '02/'03 cars can be out of alignment from the factory- mine was and had to be replaced.

Mine was serviced on the button, yet still spent an average of 2 days per month in the dealership having warranty repairs done.

Engine wise it was spot on, though. wink

aryastark

170 posts

154 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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10 Pence Short said:
Ran mine for 125,000 miles in 23 months.

Had to replace the steering rack twice, the electronic control unit a couple of times. The gearbox was replaced, as was the exhaust manifold. Paint quality is relatively atrocious is is the lacquer on the alloy wheels (which may have been improved on later cars- I had all 4 replaced under warranty). Front ARB can become loose and rear suspension arms on '02/'03 cars can be out of alignment from the factory- mine was and had to be replaced.

Mine was serviced on the button, yet still spent an average of 2 days per month in the dealership having warranty repairs done.

Engine wise it was spot on, though. wink
Can't tell if this dudes a troll or not...

You obviously can't drive, so just give up and invest in a push bike.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

222 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Can't tell if you're 11 or not.

I've only ever had a CRX Mk2 VT, DC2 Integra, EP3 CTR, Accords of varying generations and driven pretty much anything Honda have produced in the past 20 years.

Pretty much every Honda I've ever run has been bullet proof- but my EP3 certainly was not- and I'll tell it as I find it.

If you don't like it, you can always whistle.

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

203 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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aryastark said:
10 Pence Short said:
Ran mine for 125,000 miles in 23 months.

Had to replace the steering rack twice, the electronic control unit a couple of times. The gearbox was replaced, as was the exhaust manifold. Paint quality is relatively atrocious is is the lacquer on the alloy wheels (which may have been improved on later cars- I had all 4 replaced under warranty). Front ARB can become loose and rear suspension arms on '02/'03 cars can be out of alignment from the factory- mine was and had to be replaced.

Mine was serviced on the button, yet still spent an average of 2 days per month in the dealership having warranty repairs done.

Engine wise it was spot on, though. wink
Can't tell if this dudes a troll or not...

You obviously can't drive, so just give up and invest in a push bike.
Epic fail aryastark....... whooossshhhhhh

Chris Peacock

815 posts

213 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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aryastark said:
Can't tell if this dudes a troll or not...

You obviously can't drive, so just give up and invest in a push bike.
Eh?.....