Honda Civic Type R its a no no... sorry..
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Please DO NOT BUY A NEW GEN HONDA CIVIC TYPE R they are not any where near as good as i thought it would be,owned ours for 7 months lost £3000 in that time had so many probs HONDA UK have been so so bad they just don't care they know its not what it should be
list on our car in 7 months,
Paint issues rear bumper under hatch back bubble,front end 40 odd paint chips 10 or so very prominent,radio poor sound,passenger door handle some times you can't get in from outside,ride is not at all good for a drive in to town (open roads great though)rear suspension creeks, dash board rattles,passenger seat rattle if no body sat on it,paint scratches so easy also clutch bearing replaced and new clutch ( Yes HONDA did replace under warranty but it took a month to get it sorted to be told when we got to dealers they had not had the go ahead so we had to go away and come back a week later)
to top all this off we paid £17k just sold it back to Honda for £14k bare in mind they were 24700k last year this time that's over £830 losing a month that's not good....so make your own mind up but i would never buy another Honda they make here in England sorry guys you need to do better.
I have been buying Honda for 20 years, I still have my S2000 and its great.
I also told them at Honda UK I will make sure everybody i can tell I will lets hope they see this, they also said to me we really can't take any notice of car forums, Think that's a silly statement !!
list on our car in 7 months,
Paint issues rear bumper under hatch back bubble,front end 40 odd paint chips 10 or so very prominent,radio poor sound,passenger door handle some times you can't get in from outside,ride is not at all good for a drive in to town (open roads great though)rear suspension creeks, dash board rattles,passenger seat rattle if no body sat on it,paint scratches so easy also clutch bearing replaced and new clutch ( Yes HONDA did replace under warranty but it took a month to get it sorted to be told when we got to dealers they had not had the go ahead so we had to go away and come back a week later)
to top all this off we paid £17k just sold it back to Honda for £14k bare in mind they were 24700k last year this time that's over £830 losing a month that's not good....so make your own mind up but i would never buy another Honda they make here in England sorry guys you need to do better.
I have been buying Honda for 20 years, I still have my S2000 and its great.
I also told them at Honda UK I will make sure everybody i can tell I will lets hope they see this, they also said to me we really can't take any notice of car forums, Think that's a silly statement !!
I know what you mean, I'm a bit disappointed with the overal quality of materials used on mine. The firm ride is unnecessary really, a bit softer would stop the rattles and suspension woes.
The paint is very soft. The marks the seatbelt buckle leaves on the door pillar is a shame. Quite a few trim items are just plain cheap (gear lever surround).
The S2000 is a classic, keep it!
The paint is very soft. The marks the seatbelt buckle leaves on the door pillar is a shame. Quite a few trim items are just plain cheap (gear lever surround).
The S2000 is a classic, keep it!
Edited by Triple7 on Friday 20th May 16:35
Sorry to read about all the issues... It is really disappointing to have so many problems on a car, from new, when you are probably trusting the brand name that it won't have issues.
However, are they not stopping production of the Type-Rs? Do you think it's a Type-R specific issue?
Have you gone onto any CTR forums and highlighted your issues? You might get more of a response.?
Can I ask, what exactly are you wanting from your campaign? Genuine question
However, are they not stopping production of the Type-Rs? Do you think it's a Type-R specific issue?
Have you gone onto any CTR forums and highlighted your issues? You might get more of a response.?
Can I ask, what exactly are you wanting from your campaign? Genuine question
BURNIE said:
Please DO NOT BUY A NEW GEN HONDA CIVIC TYPE R they are not any where near as good as i thought it would be,owned ours for 7 months lost £3000 in that time had so many probs HONDA UK have been so so bad they just don't care they know its not what it should be
list on our car in 7 months,
Paint issues rear bumper under hatch back bubble,front end 40 odd paint chips 10 or so very prominent,radio poor sound,passenger door handle some times you can't get in from outside,ride is not at all good for a drive in to town (open roads great though)rear suspension creeks, dash board rattles,passenger seat rattle if no body sat on it,paint scratches so easy also clutch bearing replaced and new clutch ( Yes HONDA did replace under warranty but it took a month to get it sorted to be told when we got to dealers they had not had the go ahead so we had to go away and come back a week later)
to top all this off we paid £17k just sold it back to Honda for £14k bare in mind they were 24700k last year this time that's over £830 losing a month that's not good....so make your own mind up but i would never buy another Honda they make here in England sorry guys you need to do better.
I have been buying Honda for 20 years, I still have my S2000 and its great.
I also told them at Honda UK I will make sure everybody i can tell I will lets hope they see this, they also said to me we really can't take any notice of car forums, Think that's a silly statement !!
I could have told you they were sh!t a long, long time ago.list on our car in 7 months,
Paint issues rear bumper under hatch back bubble,front end 40 odd paint chips 10 or so very prominent,radio poor sound,passenger door handle some times you can't get in from outside,ride is not at all good for a drive in to town (open roads great though)rear suspension creeks, dash board rattles,passenger seat rattle if no body sat on it,paint scratches so easy also clutch bearing replaced and new clutch ( Yes HONDA did replace under warranty but it took a month to get it sorted to be told when we got to dealers they had not had the go ahead so we had to go away and come back a week later)
to top all this off we paid £17k just sold it back to Honda for £14k bare in mind they were 24700k last year this time that's over £830 losing a month that's not good....so make your own mind up but i would never buy another Honda they make here in England sorry guys you need to do better.
I have been buying Honda for 20 years, I still have my S2000 and its great.
I also told them at Honda UK I will make sure everybody i can tell I will lets hope they see this, they also said to me we really can't take any notice of car forums, Think that's a silly statement !!
What I want is people to know that they are not buying a proper Honda...I have had plenty and know what to expect and Honda UK Swindon just ain't up to the job sorry guys.
As this is our 2nd Civic the last was a 2.2 desil (and was very jucy)mind you its the way I drive don't help.
But there was paint probs with that car and dash and and and....
As this is our 2nd Civic the last was a 2.2 desil (and was very jucy)mind you its the way I drive don't help.
But there was paint probs with that car and dash and and and....
I think it has been penny pinching all around. The car is definately a lot cheaper to make than the EP3 with the torsion bar setup, the interior materials have also felt the pinch. Toyota have just come through the wrath of cheapening their product, Mercedes a few years ago after their debacle with Chrysler. I hope the next generation of Hondas get back on form, but I doubt it. I like the new CRZ but not at £25k, c'mon!!
I cant believe someone has paid over £24k for one of them
drivethedeal were doing them at £15500 new 18 months ago and its the same shape.
The only ones they wouldnt discount were the white one which IMO is the only one to bother with as it has a LSD.
Still, the engines not different enough for me from when they were launched in 2002 to warrant buying one.
drivethedeal were doing them at £15500 new 18 months ago and its the same shape.
The only ones they wouldnt discount were the white one which IMO is the only one to bother with as it has a LSD.
Still, the engines not different enough for me from when they were launched in 2002 to warrant buying one.
nottyash said:
I cant believe someone has paid over £24k for one of them
drivethedeal were doing them at £15500 new 18 months ago and its the same shape.
The only ones they wouldnt discount were the white one which IMO is the only one to bother with as it has a LSD.
Still, the engines not different enough for me from when they were launched in 2002 to warrant buying one.
Coz no one else has sat in it!drivethedeal were doing them at £15500 new 18 months ago and its the same shape.
The only ones they wouldnt discount were the white one which IMO is the only one to bother with as it has a LSD.
Still, the engines not different enough for me from when they were launched in 2002 to warrant buying one.
The last ones since the M200 all have LSD.
They are advertised by Honda for £19,995, but you pay a lot less than that.
Triple7 said:
Coz no one else has sat in it!
The last ones since the M200 all have LSD.
They are advertised by Honda for £19,995, but you pay a lot less than that.
Still not worth that much.The last ones since the M200 all have LSD.
They are advertised by Honda for £19,995, but you pay a lot less than that.
I like them but wouldnt pay that. I am glad they have started putting LSDs in them. Its only taken 9 years. The Japs had them all the time
Don't get your moaning about losing money. Everyone knows that the second you drive off the forecourt you lose a substantial chunk of cash. If you don't want to lose this money, don't buy a new car, it's never going to appreciate.
Also suspension wise, we could have all told you that before, even Jeremy clarkson could have.
Also suspension wise, we could have all told you that before, even Jeremy clarkson could have.
Sorry to hear of your woes.
I love Hondas - I've owned 5 Hondas and virtually nothing but for over 10 years.
But IMHO:-
- Honda build and engineering quality has been deteriorating (both in absolute terms and relative to the competition) for about a decade. The surveys back this up.
- Honda stopped caring about the 'performance' side of motoring a good few years ago - too much dithering over the 'new NSX' (sic), canning the S2000 and the proposed replacement, no hot Accord since 2002 and now ditching the CTR with no planned replacement.
- ...so Honda, much like the rest of the mainstream manufacturers, won't give two hoots about any car forum.
They're currently trading off 2 decades of "properly engineered, perfectly reliable" reputation and are probably going to milk that for as long as they can - after all, the German brands have managed much the same (VW, Audi, BMW, Merc, Porsche - all WERE at one point in the last 30 years impeccably built, esp. Merc and Porsche...and all have had BIG drop-offs in reliability in recent years...although Merc may now be in the ascendancy again).
I might consider an Accord in the future, but it won't be the default choice it would have been a while ago. I will still consider a 2nd-hand S2000 again if circumstances take us there, despite stories of engine-woes, esp. on high milers, as I still think that is an underrated car. But that's it. Their hybrids are nothing like as economical as the original Insight and their mainstream cars are now marketing- and design-led not engineering-led. Substance well and truly lost...
...which is why the newest of my two Hondas is 12 years old. I've had less woes (aircon regas, caliper clean-up, replace rear bushes and bearings only...oh and a rocker-cover gasket as someone previously had stripped a thread on one of the securing bolts) over 3 years and 25k in my ITR than half the people I know have had in new/nearly-new cars. It's now starting to need repairs and replacements, but it's done bloody well and the mechanicals are still completely sound.
RIP Honda?
I love Hondas - I've owned 5 Hondas and virtually nothing but for over 10 years.
But IMHO:-
- Honda build and engineering quality has been deteriorating (both in absolute terms and relative to the competition) for about a decade. The surveys back this up.
- Honda stopped caring about the 'performance' side of motoring a good few years ago - too much dithering over the 'new NSX' (sic), canning the S2000 and the proposed replacement, no hot Accord since 2002 and now ditching the CTR with no planned replacement.
- ...so Honda, much like the rest of the mainstream manufacturers, won't give two hoots about any car forum.
They're currently trading off 2 decades of "properly engineered, perfectly reliable" reputation and are probably going to milk that for as long as they can - after all, the German brands have managed much the same (VW, Audi, BMW, Merc, Porsche - all WERE at one point in the last 30 years impeccably built, esp. Merc and Porsche...and all have had BIG drop-offs in reliability in recent years...although Merc may now be in the ascendancy again).
I might consider an Accord in the future, but it won't be the default choice it would have been a while ago. I will still consider a 2nd-hand S2000 again if circumstances take us there, despite stories of engine-woes, esp. on high milers, as I still think that is an underrated car. But that's it. Their hybrids are nothing like as economical as the original Insight and their mainstream cars are now marketing- and design-led not engineering-led. Substance well and truly lost...
...which is why the newest of my two Hondas is 12 years old. I've had less woes (aircon regas, caliper clean-up, replace rear bushes and bearings only...oh and a rocker-cover gasket as someone previously had stripped a thread on one of the securing bolts) over 3 years and 25k in my ITR than half the people I know have had in new/nearly-new cars. It's now starting to need repairs and replacements, but it's done bloody well and the mechanicals are still completely sound.
RIP Honda?
(over)due to hand back my 2.2 diesel Swindon Civic.
Can't wait. All the stuff in the OP applies to mine too.
The Diesels are also liable to premature clutch failure - which Honda are being rather unhelpful with in my view. They say latest cars don't have this non existent problem (there is a contradiction if ever there was one)
Can't wait. All the stuff in the OP applies to mine too.
The Diesels are also liable to premature clutch failure - which Honda are being rather unhelpful with in my view. They say latest cars don't have this non existent problem (there is a contradiction if ever there was one)
My EP3 Civic was a paragon of s
te, in terms of reliability.
In 23 months of ownership...
- 3 Steering racks
- 3 Steering control units
- 1 Gearbox
- 1 Exhaust manifold
- 1 New rear suspension
- 4 new alloy wheels
- Several days in the garage removing dashboard and sorting persistent rattles
- A bonnet respray that had to be re-done by Honda 3 times
Somewhere around 30 days in total at the garage having warranty work done.
te, in terms of reliability.In 23 months of ownership...
- 3 Steering racks
- 3 Steering control units
- 1 Gearbox
- 1 Exhaust manifold
- 1 New rear suspension
- 4 new alloy wheels
- Several days in the garage removing dashboard and sorting persistent rattles
- A bonnet respray that had to be re-done by Honda 3 times
Somewhere around 30 days in total at the garage having warranty work done.
10 Pence Short said:
My EP3 Civic was a paragon of ste, in terms of reliability.
In 23 months of ownership...
- 3 Steering racks
- 3 Steering control units
- 1 Gearbox
- 1 Exhaust manifold
- 1 New rear suspension
- 4 new alloy wheels
- Several days in the garage removing dashboard and sorting persistent rattles
- A bonnet respray that had to be re-done by Honda 3 times
Somewhere around 30 days in total at the garage having warranty work done.
Hmm, I`ve covered around 60,000 miles in my previous Accord and present FR-V.te, in terms of reliability.In 23 months of ownership...
- 3 Steering racks
- 3 Steering control units
- 1 Gearbox
- 1 Exhaust manifold
- 1 New rear suspension
- 4 new alloy wheels
- Several days in the garage removing dashboard and sorting persistent rattles
- A bonnet respray that had to be re-done by Honda 3 times
Somewhere around 30 days in total at the garage having warranty work done.
Apart from tyres and brake pads (in fact the Accord needed a new tailgate motor but that was replaced by Honda under warranty although it was 2 years out of warranty) they`ve had absolutely nothing apart from servicing spent on them. I admit my cars were built in Japan and not Swindon, a coincidence?
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