Electric drag racing?
Discussion
As one of the lucky peeps who have grown up in the era of ICE etc.
The up and coming era of electric drag racing is upon us (maybe)?
I see electric cars running mid 8’s something I never achieved with an ICE engine, tens in fact.
(Yes it was a Rob Loaring ICE engine lol)
So if any of us are thinking of returning to the new concrete track at the Pod.
Should we be thinking EV...?
The up and coming era of electric drag racing is upon us (maybe)?
I see electric cars running mid 8’s something I never achieved with an ICE engine, tens in fact.
(Yes it was a Rob Loaring ICE engine lol)
So if any of us are thinking of returning to the new concrete track at the Pod.
Should we be thinking EV...?
EV has been the easiest way to accelerate quickly for a while I think.....The Tesla 0 - 60 time is what 2.3 seconds?...from the showroom!
......But it is totally soul-less. Drag Racing is about all the senses...... being overwhelmed. Yes, I watched Priddle and Skilton so am really old!
......But it is totally soul-less. Drag Racing is about all the senses...... being overwhelmed. Yes, I watched Priddle and Skilton so am really old!
I am not sure about the current :-) state of electric Drag Racing in Europe.
In USA, the NEDRA has their own series, and records, but over here the story is different.
There are pioneers like the Blackcurrant Beetle (was it ever rebuilt after the Hockenheim meltdown?),
and the latvian "electric fox" rail dragster which has been in the low 7s,
and of course the new fully street legal production cars which are surprisingly quick considering the battery weight.
In Germany, one electro-converted Drag Bike is built with modified Busa chassis and slick.
But, has there not been an out-ruling of EVs from competition, and even track bans, due to the fire risk,
or better worded, the inability of fire crews to extinguish a battery pack when its is fully ablaze ?
I do not know how the "Formula Electro" racing circus is handling this,
do they have a specially-equipped , dedicated team that goes on tour with the racers ?
Once the hazard risk is handled, I would like to see some EVs on track,
but if they take over the quartermile sport I´m out, seems I am as much a Dinosaur as the Hemi Motor itself,
but the sheer sensual overload of a charged combuster is one important fascination factor to me.
In USA, the NEDRA has their own series, and records, but over here the story is different.
There are pioneers like the Blackcurrant Beetle (was it ever rebuilt after the Hockenheim meltdown?),
and the latvian "electric fox" rail dragster which has been in the low 7s,
and of course the new fully street legal production cars which are surprisingly quick considering the battery weight.
In Germany, one electro-converted Drag Bike is built with modified Busa chassis and slick.
But, has there not been an out-ruling of EVs from competition, and even track bans, due to the fire risk,
or better worded, the inability of fire crews to extinguish a battery pack when its is fully ablaze ?
I do not know how the "Formula Electro" racing circus is handling this,
do they have a specially-equipped , dedicated team that goes on tour with the racers ?
Once the hazard risk is handled, I would like to see some EVs on track,
but if they take over the quartermile sport I´m out, seems I am as much a Dinosaur as the Hemi Motor itself,
but the sheer sensual overload of a charged combuster is one important fascination factor to me.
Full details of Black Current Racing here:
http://www.currentracing.co.uk/Blackcurrent/bc3.ph...
Only OEM EV vehicles allowed on track in the UK these days.
P.S. Not sure why Richie Webb has been mentioned above.
http://www.currentracing.co.uk/Blackcurrent/bc3.ph...
Only OEM EV vehicles allowed on track in the UK these days.
P.S. Not sure why Richie Webb has been mentioned above.
Edited by NitroWars on Friday 4th February 13:10
Gtxxjon said:
As one of the lucky peeps who have grown up in the era of ICE etc.
The up and coming era of electric drag racing is upon us (maybe)?
I see electric cars running mid 8’s something I never achieved with an ICE engine, tens in fact.
(Yes it was a Rob Loaring ICE engine lol)
So if any of us are thinking of returning to the new concrete track at the Pod.
Should we be thinking EV...?
Quick but no drama = bored. No from me.The up and coming era of electric drag racing is upon us (maybe)?
I see electric cars running mid 8’s something I never achieved with an ICE engine, tens in fact.
(Yes it was a Rob Loaring ICE engine lol)
So if any of us are thinking of returning to the new concrete track at the Pod.
Should we be thinking EV...?
TX.
NitroWars said:
Full details of Black Current Racing here:
http://www.currentracing.co.uk/Blackcurrent/bc3.ph...
Only OEM EV vehicles allowed on track in the UK these days.
P.S. Not sure why Richie Webb has been mentioned above.
My mistake, Im getting mixed up with my fast Beetles !http://www.currentracing.co.uk/Blackcurrent/bc3.ph...
Only OEM EV vehicles allowed on track in the UK these days.
P.S. Not sure why Richie Webb has been mentioned above.
Edited by NitroWars on Friday 4th February 13:10
Effective as they are for a good old 1/4 mile dash, aren't there less variables with an EV?
ICE car depends: tyre temp and psi, tyre condition and quality, track condition, RPM of launch, reaction of driver, rpm of shift, fuel used etc etc.
EV: tyre temp and psi, tyre condition and quality, track condition. Then is it not just reaction time and press the accelerator as far as it will go to the floor? Surely each 1/4 mile time is exactly the same after this?
ICE car depends: tyre temp and psi, tyre condition and quality, track condition, RPM of launch, reaction of driver, rpm of shift, fuel used etc etc.
EV: tyre temp and psi, tyre condition and quality, track condition. Then is it not just reaction time and press the accelerator as far as it will go to the floor? Surely each 1/4 mile time is exactly the same after this?
Like most things in the modern era, it’s not for everyone lol.
I am a signed up dinosaur (as well) and still believe in the sacred Hemi lol.
A few Moparmates have switched to the mighty hemispherical with various results?
Back in 1964 the 426H was a world beater!
(It still is in its modern configuration)
But most of us are in the “wedge club” due ‘lack of wedge’ lol...
I was an engineer from school and in later life told I was “becoming redundant”...l
“You need to get trained up in electronics”, so I did!
That was in the 80’s and I still hate electrics lol...
So for me it has to be iron, steel and aluminium.(no copper windings or bearings)
The only electrics l need is to fire the plugs...
I am a signed up dinosaur (as well) and still believe in the sacred Hemi lol.
A few Moparmates have switched to the mighty hemispherical with various results?
Back in 1964 the 426H was a world beater!
(It still is in its modern configuration)
But most of us are in the “wedge club” due ‘lack of wedge’ lol...
I was an engineer from school and in later life told I was “becoming redundant”...l
“You need to get trained up in electronics”, so I did!
That was in the 80’s and I still hate electrics lol...
So for me it has to be iron, steel and aluminium.(no copper windings or bearings)
The only electrics l need is to fire the plugs...
Edited by Gtxxjon on Friday 4th February 13:39
Gtxxjon said:
Dodge Hellcat is one cool Mopar but...
The faceless EV of the future, fast but soul less...
And quiet enough to run you over, without you even knowing what hit you...
As with all EVs I guess. Will there be a distinctive sounds between EVs now or in future? Doesn't look promising. As another forum member has pointed out, it's all about the senses. The sounds, the feeling, and feedback you get through the peddles, the gear changes, the revs and ultimately that all feeding into the steering wheel - nothing compares.The faceless EV of the future, fast but soul less...
And quiet enough to run you over, without you even knowing what hit you...
TO73074E said:
Effective as they are for a good old 1/4 mile dash, aren't there less variables with an EV?
ICE car depends: tyre temp and psi, tyre condition and quality, track condition, RPM of launch, reaction of driver, rpm of shift, fuel used etc etc.
EV: tyre temp and psi, tyre condition and quality, track condition. Then is it not just reaction time and press the accelerator as far as it will go to the floor? Surely each 1/4 mile time is exactly the same after this?
For the OEM EVs, definitely. Taycans and the newer Teslas will do pretty much the same ET again and again, with most of the variation being in the reaction time. ICE car depends: tyre temp and psi, tyre condition and quality, track condition, RPM of launch, reaction of driver, rpm of shift, fuel used etc etc.
EV: tyre temp and psi, tyre condition and quality, track condition. Then is it not just reaction time and press the accelerator as far as it will go to the floor? Surely each 1/4 mile time is exactly the same after this?
The advancement will come when they can remove battery weight, most of which isn’t needed for a single run, and either hack or install substitute electronics to run the launch control and overpower the motors, in much the same way we currently run higher boost pressures and install better exhausts.
Tyres are another big one. Put a 765LT on R888rs, and it will be a few tenths up, put a Tesla on R888rs and it will confuse the hell out of the computer.
kestral said:
Drag racing in the Uk has been in decline for years. EV will just speed the decline up.
Lack of High Test Peroxide was the death of Rocket cars doing 3 seconds.
Lack of nitro will finish Top Fuel off.
When I first got into Drag Racing in the 90's some mates said it was doomed and was dying a death, last few times I've been to the Pod its been heaving with loads going on. Lack of High Test Peroxide was the death of Rocket cars doing 3 seconds.
Lack of nitro will finish Top Fuel off.
Its always going to be a minority sport due to lack of TV but I really haven't seen the decline rather the opposite
I've been to the Pod many times, but not for about 20yrs, other stuff in life got in the way. Still a keen fan on TV/online though.
Now we've got a 7yo who is into all things to do with cars he is keen to go and see the drag racing in real life.
I've been holding him off it for a couple of years because he didn't used to be great around loud noises, but nowadays he is fine. Hoping to get to the Easter meeting.
I'm seeing it as a rite of passage for him, to see those machines which could at any time blow their engine. I just don't see that people would want to go and see two EVs race in the same way - it's all about the aural and visual assault on the senses.
Now we've got a 7yo who is into all things to do with cars he is keen to go and see the drag racing in real life.
I've been holding him off it for a couple of years because he didn't used to be great around loud noises, but nowadays he is fine. Hoping to get to the Easter meeting.
I'm seeing it as a rite of passage for him, to see those machines which could at any time blow their engine. I just don't see that people would want to go and see two EVs race in the same way - it's all about the aural and visual assault on the senses.
Our Avian poster has a huge obsession for Sammy Miller, and for some reason doesn’t seem to attend since the demise or rockets.
Because if this, he is unlikely to have actually seen the HUGE investment that still hasn’t stopped, at SPR.
Our sport will always be a niche product, which is why the track runs lifestyle events almost every weekend in the season.
But, as long as things have power and wheel, drag racing will always exist…..
Because if this, he is unlikely to have actually seen the HUGE investment that still hasn’t stopped, at SPR.
Our sport will always be a niche product, which is why the track runs lifestyle events almost every weekend in the season.
But, as long as things have power and wheel, drag racing will always exist…..
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