Look Keo's or Shimano?
Look Keo's or Shimano?
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BliarOut

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72,863 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Right, I'm thinking about trying some Spuds for the first time. As I've got a knackered knee they've got to have plenty of float and be very easy to clip into and more importantly, out of!

The ability to ride short commutes in office shoes too might be useful but I'd sacrifice quick pedal changes if it has to be that way smile

And while we're at it, what shoes are good, I need something with a high ankle preferably...

rsturbo

598 posts

248 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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keo's for me on my road bike

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

238 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Keo's here as well with the 4.5 degree grey cleats

I don't think you will go wrong with either really.

Furious Styles

938 posts

192 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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I ride the carbon Keo's myself and rate them very highly but dont believe that theres much between the brands to be fair - although Look pedals are generally lighter. If your looking for something with float i would also look at Speedplays, never tried them myself but seem to remember reading that they were good for people with dodgy knees.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

248 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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itsnotarace said:
Keo's here as well with the 4.5 degree grey cleats

I don't think you will go wrong with either really.
Ditto that. Any model to suit you pocket.

BliarOut

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72,863 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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So that's the pedal side of things... But what about walking? Is it worth sacrificing the ability to walk for a set of dedicated road shoes or are touring ones a better compromise?

okgo

42,091 posts

227 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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If you can show me some shoes you can walk in that take LOOK cleats I'm all ears. I didn't think they existed!

okgo

42,091 posts

227 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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If you can show me some shoes you can walk in that take LOOK cleats I'm all ears. I didn't think they existed!

BliarOut

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Aha.... Yes, I'm noticing that the touring ones all seem to be two bolt fixing...

Pupp

12,945 posts

301 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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The standard answer to the need to ne able to walk Q is use original (ie non-SL) SPD system on MTB shoes/boots. I still use SPD on road bikes and used to race on them (Shmano did Ultegra and Dura Ace single sided pedals that were little jewels)

If you're starting from scratch, maybe have a squint at Ritchey Pro micro 4s... SPD style (tho not sure fully compatible) but light as and very durable

BliarOut

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

268 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Pupp said:
The standard answer to the need to ne able to walk Q is use original (ie non-SL) SPD system on MTB shoes/boots. I still use SPD on road bikes and used to race on them (Shmano did Ultegra and Dura Ace single sided pedals that were little jewels)

If you're starting from scratch, maybe have a squint at Ritchey Pro micro 4s... SPD style (tho not sure fully compatible) but light as and very durable
Will they improve the pace over standard pedals and half clips?

Pupp

12,945 posts

301 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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BliarOut said:
Will they improve the pace over standard pedals and half clips?
Pace is about technique and strength/stamina but there's no comparison in terms of the mechanical connection with any clipless system and toe cages without straps. Worth remembering that cages and straps are still used extensively on the track by the guys (and gals) with the biggest muscles 'tho (albeit often over a clipless setup too)

mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Times.

All the security of Looks with the walkability of SPDs.

Captain Beaky

1,389 posts

313 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Furious Styles said:
I ride the carbon Keo's myself and rate them very highly but dont believe that theres much between the brands to be fair - although Look pedals are generally lighter. If your looking for something with float i would also look at Speedplays, never tried them myself but seem to remember reading that they were good for people with dodgy knees.
I use Speedplay Frogs on my road bike following a busted knee cap and they have given me excellent service and no knee problems whatsoever. They have plenty of frictionless float so they don't put any sideways force on the knee joint even if your pedal action isn't perfectly aligned.

Frogs are the MTB variant and I wear Shimano shoes (don't remember the number) which are just like the road version but with a little rubber on the sole and heel. It means I can walk into the cafe without looking like a penguin and get to the counter first for the biggest slice of cake smile Also I can put a foot down with confidence when I unclip.

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

313 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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mchammer89 said:
Times.

All the security of Looks with the walkability of SPDs.
Which Times?

My Time RXS pedals (both pairs, and multiple sets of cleats) were as strong as a Jacob's Cream Cracker.

NitroNick

758 posts

239 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Captain Beaky said:
I use Speedplay Frogs on my road bike following a busted knee cap and they have given me excellent service and no knee problems whatsoever. They have plenty of frictionless float so they don't put any sideways force on the knee joint even if your pedal action isn't perfectly aligned.
+1 Speedplays are excellent, I too switched to them after knee trouble and wouldn't even contimplate anything else in future.

Captain Beaky

1,389 posts

313 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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BliarOut said:
And while we're at it, what shoes are good, I need something with a high ankle preferably...
I have a pair of Shimano MW-80 which come over the ankle. I have them for winter use as they are warm and waterproof - they would probably be too hot for summer.

CooperS

4,580 posts

248 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Captain Beaky said:
I have a pair of Shimano MW-80 which come over the ankle. I have them for winter use as they are warm and waterproof - they would probably be too hot for summer.
In my experience yes they would be.

Also you wont find a cabon sole race shoe with high ankle support (i dont think)

My set up is Time Atac pedels and SIDI Eagle mtb shoes (or maybe dragons) which are really stiff due to the red carbon soles.

I am thinking of getting dedicated race shoe but tbh wonder how much benefit i'd get from the odd sunday ride where i'm focused on pushing myself (so needing a stiff / fixed shoe) and not wanting to get off half way round and hae a sadwich etc...

mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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HundredthIdiot said:
Which Times?

My Time RXS pedals (both pairs, and multiple sets of cleats) were as strong as a Jacob's Cream Cracker.
I use Aliums for road riding and the ROCs for off-roading, both awesome.

BliarOut

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Well I'm clipped into some Shimano SPD's with specialised MTB shoes and I'm still alive biggrin

They seem very comfy but where is the optimum contact point for the cleat? Directly under the ball of the foot or slightly forward towards the toes?