Richmond Park ; Will my bike be safe?
Richmond Park ; Will my bike be safe?
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Matt London

Original Poster:

812 posts

197 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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My better half is pushing me to cycle to Richmond tomorrow(Sunday) a.m. and then run with her.
Being a Londoner, I am paranoid about my bike and components being stolen. Should I worry about my D-Locked bike and saddlebag or does the volume of cyclists mean that thieves do not 'try it on' ? TBH I think the Missus is being naive by saying that 'everybody just leaves their bikes'.

What do you think?

Matt

Rich_W

12,548 posts

241 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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~Remove front wheel. lock with d lock through frame and front wheel to large immovable thing.
Remove saddle bag

Thieves will hopefully move onto an easier target. Unless you have a bike worth a bit of effort!

Or just walk home, your call.

Matt London

Original Poster:

812 posts

197 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Thanks for the response.
Now the missus can see that it's not just me that thinks Richmond is not some kind of Cycling Utopia.
TBH I never leave my locked bike anywhere outside for more than 5 mins at a time anyway.

Matt

croyde

26,298 posts

259 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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There is a cycle hire place by the Roehampton Gate entrance so may they might look after it or lock it outside by their bikes.

dubbs

1,599 posts

313 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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If your bike is worth more than £50 and looks like it has EVER been looked after then never leave it anywhere.

My £500 of commuter never gets left anywhere that isn't restricted access and even then usually gets some form of lock.

croyde

26,298 posts

259 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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dubbs said:
If your bike is worth more than £50 and looks like it has EVER been looked after then never leave it anywhere.

My £500 of commuter never gets left anywhere that isn't restricted access and even then usually gets some form of lock.
I'll second that on second thoughts. I might leave my dirty black Hybrid/MTB locked up for a bit in town and still be surprised that it's still there when I get back but when I get my new roadie it will be kept in my bedroom, taken out for a ride, no stopping unless I can see it (getting a bacon roll from that place in the middle of Richmond Park) and then back to the bedroom again.

I have noticed that I never see roadies locked up at the shopping centre or Sainsburys, just hybrids and MTBs.

ATG

23,676 posts

301 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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The car parks in Richmond Park are busy all weekend. I'd have thought a bike locked up properly next to one of those would be fine, especially if it was overlooked by a tea hut or similar.

AyBee

11,309 posts

231 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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croyde said:
dubbs said:
If your bike is worth more than £50 and looks like it has EVER been looked after then never leave it anywhere.

My £500 of commuter never gets left anywhere that isn't restricted access and even then usually gets some form of lock.
I'll second that on second thoughts. I might leave my dirty black Hybrid/MTB locked up for a bit in town and still be surprised that it's still there when I get back but when I get my new roadie it will be kept in my bedroom, taken out for a ride, no stopping unless I can see it (getting a bacon roll from that place in the middle of Richmond Park) and then back to the bedroom again.

I have noticed that I never see roadies locked up at the shopping centre or Sainsburys, just hybrids and MTBs.
I don't insure my bikes for outside of my house (because most of my riding is done training loops door to door so there's no need) so I tend not to take them to the shop. A place I was doing some work not so long ago is full of bike nuts - 5 people in the office, 5 bikes, about £10k's worth. They have a little mountain bike that works but looks crap called the Pure Genius which is ridden to sainsburys for lunch and just left outside without a lock - never been stolen hehe

croyde

26,298 posts

259 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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AyBee said:
croyde said:
dubbs said:
If your bike is worth more than £50 and looks like it has EVER been looked after then never leave it anywhere.

My £500 of commuter never gets left anywhere that isn't restricted access and even then usually gets some form of lock.
I'll second that on second thoughts. I might leave my dirty black Hybrid/MTB locked up for a bit in town and still be surprised that it's still there when I get back but when I get my new roadie it will be kept in my bedroom, taken out for a ride, no stopping unless I can see it (getting a bacon roll from that place in the middle of Richmond Park) and then back to the bedroom again.

I have noticed that I never see roadies locked up at the shopping centre or Sainsburys, just hybrids and MTBs.
I don't insure my bikes for outside of my house (because most of my riding is done training loops door to door so there's no need) so I tend not to take them to the shop. A place I was doing some work not so long ago is full of bike nuts - 5 people in the office, 5 bikes, about £10k's worth. They have a little mountain bike that works but looks crap called the Pure Genius which is ridden to sainsburys for lunch and just left outside without a lock - never been stolen hehe
My old Univega MTB, which I had for 15 years, was used for ages and never locked at the shops or at home. It looked tatty and rusty and only a few of the gears were available.

Unfortunately someone came into the garden and threw off the pile of kids bikes on top of it and nicked it. Hopefully they missed a gear and went under a bus.

Gooby

9,269 posts

263 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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The local scumbags have taken to following bikes home then coming back later to help themself. Last week a friend took her £4.5k bike home along with a £4k demo bike for a mate, all on a rack on the back of the car. They simply undid the hinges on the shed and bypassed the locks. Luckily the bikes were in the house.

mrdelmonti

1,420 posts

210 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Gooby said:
The local scumbags have taken to following bikes home then coming back later to help themself. Last week a friend took her £4.5k bike home along with a £4k demo bike for a mate, all on a rack on the back of the car. They simply undid the hinges on the shed and bypassed the locks. Luckily the bikes were in the house.
I had that exact thing happen to me a couple years ago, except the bike wasn't worth anywhere near that and it was in the shed frown since then I have kept my bikes in the house out of view.

croyde

26,298 posts

259 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Gooby said:
The local scumbags have taken to following bikes home then coming back later to help themself. Last week a friend took her £4.5k bike home along with a £4k demo bike for a mate, all on a rack on the back of the car. They simply undid the hinges on the shed and bypassed the locks. Luckily the bikes were in the house.
stting Hell!

Been looking at ordering a Specialized Allez Elite for myself and although not in the same league, there do seem to a lot of very cheap ones on Gumtree.

okgo

42,078 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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I leave my £1000 bike locked up in Kingston town center all the time, never had a problem.

croyde

26,298 posts

259 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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okgo said:
I leave my £1000 bike locked up in Kingston town center all the time, never had a problem.
Whereabouts? wink

okgo

42,078 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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croyde said:
okgo said:
I leave my £1000 bike locked up in Kingston town center all the time, never had a problem.
Whereabouts? wink
In my flat wink

Matt London

Original Poster:

812 posts

197 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Thanks for all of the input.
My first trip over there was from 830-930 today. I stayed on my bike while the missus ran. If I was ever to lock any of my bikes up I would leave them at Roehampton gate (as suggested by Croyde) as it was packed with people/cyclists.

I took the Road bike today, but may take the MTB next time as there seemed to be alot of them about so it must be fun on the tracks as well.

Cheers

Matt

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

332 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Seems they're an easy sell once stolen...

Evening Standard said:
One in six cyclists who have had their bike stolen has spotted it for sale online, a new study has found.

The London Cycling Campaign today called for tough rules to be brought in for people selling bikes on sites such as eBay and Gumtree.
Full article

BMWBen

4,906 posts

230 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Matt London said:
My better half is pushing me to cycle to Richmond tomorrow(Sunday) a.m. and then run with her.
Being a Londoner, I am paranoid about my bike and components being stolen. Should I worry about my D-Locked bike and saddlebag or does the volume of cyclists mean that thieves do not 'try it on' ? TBH I think the Missus is being naive by saying that 'everybody just leaves their bikes'.

What do you think?

Matt
You're right, she's wrong.
Speaking as someone who's had every bike he's ever owned stolen. The current one has been going for 1 year now, because I've never left it locked up outside for more than 5 minutes, and I can count the number of times I've left it locked up outside for less than 5 minutes, on one hand.

Sway

35,038 posts

223 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Has it really changed that much in the 8 or so years since I lived in West London?

I used to work for Richmond Cycles as a Saturday boy, saved up my pennies and bought a Trek OCLV with full Dura-Ace, and, in conjunction with a Kryptonite New Yorker chain left it pretty much anywhere and everywhere.

That was in US Postal colours and with FiR Antara carbon rims too, so not exactly inconspicuous....

Yet never once did I worry about it going missing, and there was never any indication that I should have done.

croyde

26,298 posts

259 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Things have changed. It is nigh on impossible to get insurance on supersports motorcycles in London as it is a case of not if but when it is stolen.

I'm nearly 50 and I had a bicycle stolen when I was around 15 and returned a day later with a note warning me to lock it next time. My last bike, a Univega, which I had owned and not locked for 15 odd years went walkies last year, hidden from the street in the garden, covered in rust and 3 kids bikes.

My latest motorcycle, one I could just afford the insurance for, a Street Triple, has been owned since last Summer and has had 2 attempted thefts. Once when parked outside the lounge window with loads of people in the room, and the other time in a busy London street outside a number of restaurants. That time somebody called the cops and the would be thieves ran.

It is a shame but thefts are now so commonplace that it is just not worth having anything nice.

Sorry all slightly off topic, rant over.