New Disc Brakes?

[Barbapapa]

Currently riding a 2002 Santa Cruz Heckler with 02 Hope M4 185mm disc brakes.

Despite having them bled, new discs, sintered pads etc. they are just not performing like they used to in terms of feel and power.

Therefore, have come to the conclusion some new kit may be in order - currently considering Avid Code 2008, but would welcome recommendations.

To give an indication of riding and topography, I’m fortunate to live in the Peak District.

Thanks.

[Rico]

Shimano XT Servowave levers with XTR/XT/Saint callipers.

[WildCards]

I can't fault my 160mm Formula Oro K18's. I've used them everywhere from the Peaks, to Cannock to numerous trips to trail centres in Wales since christmas, and despite getting through a few sets of pads, they have at all times given superb braking power, at many times pulled me up better than friends on other brands with bigger discs.

[Barbapapa]

Thanks for the responses, some alternatives to consider, please keep 'em coming.

[-C-]

Codes are somewhat overkill, even on a DH bike.

[Pooh]

I have a slightly older version of these Avids on my Whyte and I am very happy with them.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=13511 

[neil_bolton]

Rico said:

Shimano XT Servowave levers with XTR/XT/Saint callipers.

Yup, I'd vouch for these, wanting to try the Servowave as soon as I can, and can't wait for the new 4 pot Shimano stuff to appear.

[Barbapapa]

Thanks all for good advice.

Been perusing CRC for the Saint's with servo wave, and they seem to get really good reviews, so will investigate these more. Seems the new Saint groupset is out in September though, so will have to look at the differences.

Any other suggestions welcome.

Cheers

[snotrag]

neil_bolton said:

Rico said:

Shimano XT Servowave levers with XTR/XT/Saint callipers.

Yup, I'd vouch for these, wanting to try the Servowave as soon as I can, and can't wait for the new 4 pot Shimano stuff to appear.

Yup, what I've been running for ages. No problems, massive power with 'dinner plate' rotors.

[mat205125]

Keep what you have, scuff the pads and rotors with some emery, get out and ride and ride and ride .... Get them as filthy as possible too, especially if it's sandy around your way.

When new my Avid Juicys were st, but after a good long winter gloopy ride, they were great!

[PomBstard]

Currently have Avid Juicy 7s - no probs with anything I've thrown at them for the last 2 years, though that's mostly XC.

[neil_bolton]

snotrag said:

neil_bolton said:

Rico said:

Shimano XT Servowave levers with XTR/XT/Saint callipers.

Yup, I'd vouch for these, wanting to try the Servowave as soon as I can, and can't wait for the new 4 pot Shimano stuff to appear.

Yup, what I've been running for ages. No problems, massive power with 'dinner plate' rotors.

I my big 203 rotors front and rear

Slightly moving off the topic, but actually, still on the topic:

Whats the oddity here, component geeks?

XTR disc setup, remember, on 203mm... (Rico is not allowed to play )

Edited by neil_bolton on Wednesday 14th May 08:33

[-C-]

What do you mean?

The Hope(less) rotor? Watch that spider for cracks

[rhinochopig]

Gustav M if you want stopping power and reliability. I have one on the back of my Tandem and that thing could stop a bloody landrover. Far better than the Hope 6 pot on the front.

[neil_bolton]

-C- said:

What do you mean?

The Hope(less) rotor? Watch that spider for cracks

Bing, we have a winner.

Wassis about cracks then?

[gbbird]

I have three bikes each wioth different brakes on - Avid, Shim LX and Magura, and i must say the Maguras, although rather noisy and perhaps a bit too sentitive at times, pack the most stopping power by far.

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[Rico]

neil_bolton said:

-C- said:

Watch that spider for cracks

Wassis about cracks then?

ownage

[catso]

I have Avid Juicy 5's; 185mm front, 160 rear and they have been perfect, very strong, progressive braking even for a 'larger' rider.

[pesty]

before I decided to buy a FS bike I was going to upgrade my HT. So I bought Avid juicy 7's for it and they seemed very good.

My new bike has hayes stroker trails on, thought I'd try them out before fitting the avids. I havnt bothered fitting them as the hayes are very good. extremely strong no fade yet and I'm a fat lad who sometimes uses the front brake too much they have a nice feel to them as well.

[JWB]

Most people dont bed their bike brakes properly. Follow the routine for car race pads........

A few gentle stops. Then find a hill and ride down with a brake dragging and get it really hot, ie burn it. Now ride around a bit to let it cool. This should improve things a lot.

Often this procedure has to be repeated during the life of the brakes especially if riding in the wet or if the brakes dont get used hard.

Your Hopes should be fine after this.


I lake Magura Martas, light and powerful. They even coped with big Spainish downhills.