Single crown vs Two crowns for DH
Single crown vs Two crowns for DH
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Rico

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Monday 21st April 2008
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Trend recently seems to have been for Totems/66s etc finding their way onto DH bikes.

But more seem to be switching from Totems to 40s/888s/Boxxers

Any thoughts?

okgo

41,481 posts

221 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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Rather have the stability and extra bracing that a tipple clamp offers

Rico

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278 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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True but with 1.5in steerers its not 'that' much stiffer...

mat205125

17,790 posts

236 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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In laymans terms, please explain why these are referred to as triple crown forks.

Single, I get, as there is one crown



Triple? Why? Surely DOUBLE is more appropriate, isn't it? "Crowns" are in blue on the fork below ain't they, and there is only 2 that I can see.



Always confused me has that terminology.

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

287 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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Rico said:
True but with 1.5in steerers its not 'that' much stiffer...
Bingo.

There was once an argument for triple crown setups as they made the front end track more faithfully, however with the advent of 40mm stanchions, 1.5" steerers, and 20mm bolt through being offered, single crowns have caught up.

However, its to be said, you do notice a little flex on the longer travel forks, but nothing you'd not get on triple crowns.

For me, the main reason would be the peace of mind of less stress on the single point of the headtube and steerer that would make me run a triple crown.

However, my 66's have been nothing but great on the Supreme.

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

287 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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mat205125 said:
In laymans terms, please explain why these are referred to as triple crown forks.

Single, I get, as there is one crown



Triple? Why? Surely DOUBLE is more appropriate, isn't it? "Crowns" are in blue on the fork below ain't they, and there is only 2 that I can see.



Always confused me has that terminology.
Don't worry, it's not just you, I do too... I think its just a hangover from something or other Moto stylee and it's just stuck...

ISTR that Rock Shox used to call their Judy 'triple crown' forks Dual Crown, but the Boxxers 'triple crown' scratchchin

smile

okgo

41,481 posts

221 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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rox shox used to put DC after some forks.

Where as marzhocchi used the tripple name.

Monster tripples.. mans forks

neil_bolton

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287 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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okgo said:
rox shox used to put DC after some forks.

Where as marzhocchi used the tripple name.

Monster tripples.. mans forks
We were chuckling about Monsters yesterday funnily enough, you didn't so much as ride them, as just plough through whatever was unluckly enough to be in your way!

Absolute monster forks (pardon the pun) but just TOO heavy!

-C-

518 posts

218 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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I recently swapped from Totems to 40's.

To be fair, the Totems were pretty damn good, I never had any of the issues some were plagued with.

In terms of performance, you can run a lot longer springs in DC forks, which helps on the performance side of things, and there is a (albeit negligable) increase in stiffness with some.

Based on experience, the Totems I had (1.5" ) were WAY stiffer than some '07 Boxxer Teams, but not as stiff as the 40's I now run. Normal riding its hard to tell, but on repeated stutter bumps you can eally feel the difference.

If its a pure DH bike, I think DC forks are still the way to go, if its a 'compromise' bike, then you can't go too far wrong with one of the bigger single crown offerings.



Edited by -C- on Monday 21st April 13:34

Rico

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I loved my old Monster-Ts. On a Bullit. Brilliant bike. Then changed for some lighter UD180s in pimp gold. Damn that was a sweet bike.

I always thought it was "triple clamp" which meant they clamped the bike/wheel in 3 spots (top crown, bottom crown and hub). Guess "triple crown" grew from there?

okgo

41,481 posts

221 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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neil_bolton said:
okgo said:
rox shox used to put DC after some forks.

Where as marzhocchi used the tripple name.

Monster tripples.. mans forks
We were chuckling about Monsters yesterday funnily enough, you didn't so much as ride them, as just plough through whatever was unluckly enough to be in your way!

Absolute monster forks (pardon the pun) but just TOO heavy!
I had some of the red ones.. on a santa cruz super 8.. feck me it woudl destroy anything. But as you say it wasnt light. Had some intense mag30 rims they weighed about 10 kg.

And then, I bought some super monsters with a foot of travel haha.

Rock on freeride/downhill rocks

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

287 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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okgo said:
neil_bolton said:
okgo said:
rox shox used to put DC after some forks.

Where as marzhocchi used the tripple name.

Monster tripples.. mans forks
We were chuckling about Monsters yesterday funnily enough, you didn't so much as ride them, as just plough through whatever was unluckly enough to be in your way!

Absolute monster forks (pardon the pun) but just TOO heavy!
I had some of the red ones.. on a santa cruz super 8.. feck me it woudl destroy anything. But as you say it wasnt light. Had some intense mag30 rims they weighed about 10 kg.

And then, I bought some super monsters with a foot of travel haha.

Rock on freeride/downhill rocks
Super Monsters - that was the ones I meant - Monsters were big, but not like the Supers - I'm sure some lazy git in Mazzochi just turned around and said "Lets just sell these Trials bike forks to them instead"

Bloody huge forks they were...

okgo

41,481 posts

221 months

Monday 21st April 2008
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Stupidly so.

There was a guy that had them on one of those le toy hardtail frames (the hard as feck ones) it looked mean, that man woudl do any stair set without fear smile

But to pull them off ona dh bike you need a pretty hard frame, and the super 8 was brilliant. My mate still has a set in his garage that he had on his Karpiel armageddon hehe

Rico

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Karpiel + Josh Bender = nuts


okgo

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Monday 21st April 2008
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Rico said:
Karpiel + Josh Bender = nuts

Nut job that man.

Legend, Tyler Klassen is a nutter too. Love those videos they st any other extreme sports ones under the table.

Rico

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One of my favourite huck clips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA4N-NNNECo

cool

okgo

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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YOBetyStg_A
I think you will find is the video of choice

Edited by okgo on Monday 21st April 14:43

neil_bolton

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Monday 21st April 2008
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okgo said:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YOBetyStg_A
I think you will find is the video of choice

Edited by okgo on Monday 21st April 14:43
I beg to differ: This may not be as huge, but its very very cool...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WCWl3Vw9E80


Rico

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Monday 21st April 2008
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Mentalist. Love it! Is that an Ellsworth Dare in the first clip with the monster doubles? Always fancied an Ellsworth but never bought one...

okgo

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Monday 21st April 2008
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I think it is yeh.

He is a good rider.

I love those northshore videos, but I am a huge fan of urban free ride on silly DH bikes hehe

If you havnt seen kranked 5(thats where the moto jump clips from) then watch it its inspiring stuff.