What bike for London?

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NobleLord

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1,065 posts

255 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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I have a basic mountain bike at my home in the sticks, but am living in London during the week and have come up with a cunning plan to keep a bike up here and cycle to some nice pubs this summer wink

I know little or nothing about bikes, but I do know that I don't want a street type racing bike with the thin wheels... I'm 16 stone and 6ft tall (rugby player) and I'd look a bit daft on one.

So; what should I get for my weekday evenings in London? I like mountain bikes, but doubt that I need anything really rugged as I'll be on the road most of the time. As it's a second bike, I don't want to spend all that much so I guess Fleabay's my best bet...

One last question; does anyone know of a good little GPS with a road database that you can attached to the handles of a bike and that has a reasonable battery life? A quick search on Google has provided a couple that are great for getting across the hills but none with a road database buit in.

Thanks,
NL

schmalex

13,616 posts

213 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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I guess you are looking for a Hybrid. More robust than a road bike, but quicker than a mountain bike (larger wheels, less weight).

My wife has a hybrid & on roads or dusty tracks, she smokes me on my mountain bike everytime (even when I was a little fitter than now!!)

Something like these:

http://www.evanscycles.com/dept.jsp?dept_id=3108

NobleLord

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1,065 posts

255 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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schmalex said:
I guess you are looking for a Hybrid. More robust than a road bike, but quicker than a mountain bike (larger wheels, less weight).

My wife has a hybrid & on roads or dusty tracks, she smokes me on my mountain bike everytime (even when I was a little fitter than now!!)

Something like these:

http://www.evanscycles.com/dept.jsp?dept_id=3108
Thanks... That's the sort of thing I'm looking for. Do you know of any other makes as there aren't many of these of ebay right now?

NL

pdV6

16,442 posts

268 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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Any rigid framed MTB with a set of fat slicks on will do you proud.

schmalex

13,616 posts

213 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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NobleLord said:
schmalex said:
I guess you are looking for a Hybrid. More robust than a road bike, but quicker than a mountain bike (larger wheels, less weight).

My wife has a hybrid & on roads or dusty tracks, she smokes me on my mountain bike everytime (even when I was a little fitter than now!!)

Something like these:

http://www.evanscycles.com/dept.jsp?dept_id=3108
Thanks... That's the sort of thing I'm looking for. Do you know of any other makes as there aren't many of these of ebay right now?

NL
voila

http://www.evanscycles.com/dept.jsp?dept_id=1032

As said in the other post, failing a hybrid, any MTB with slicks will be fine

dubbs

1,590 posts

291 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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I've just converted my Specialized Allez to a flat bar. 700c wheels, light frame, comfy geometry and flat bar for great manoeuverability (ugh! spelling!) and good brake leverage.

Why not do the same - get a reasonable and cheap road bike off ebay and spend a couple of quid converting it to flat bar?

I'd definitely go that route or hybrid rather than MTB as those small wheels and off-road gearing limits your speed significantly.

will_

6,030 posts

210 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Go second hand. If it looks flash it will get nicked. I bought a Marin for £80 and spent a few quid on mudguards and a rack, added some thinner puncture resistant tyres and an air horn - and that's my 100 mile a week commuter hack. Much as I'd love a proper racer I can't justify the risk of it getting nicked or crashed. Mine is a flat bar hybrid with quick shift trigger gears.

TBH any cheapish bike the right size would be fine for what you want to do. Gumtree is also a good place to look, though there are some very dodgy bikes on there - always ask if they have the original receipt.

GHW

1,294 posts

228 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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will_ said:
Go second hand. If it looks flash it will get nicked.
Very good advice. Chap I know used to commute on a heavy, rusty old ladies town bike, complete with 3 speed hub gearing. He could leave it outside any tube station in the capital safe in the knowledge that it would still be there when he went back to collect it smile

mk1fan

10,648 posts

232 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Cotic Road Rat, Kona Paddy Wagon, Surly Karate. Single speed bikes, 700 wheels, mtb biased geometry.

NobleLord

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255 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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mk1fan said:
Cotic Road Rat, Kona Paddy Wagon, Surly Karate. Single speed bikes, 700 wheels, mtb biased geometry.
I don't know much about bikes... that looks like Chinese to me wink

Thanks to all for the advice. I went to visit a shop last night to gauge what size bike I need. It seems that 55 inches is the right one and a hybrid is definately the way to go for what I need. Only negative for me was the lack of proper shocks on the hybrids I looked at.... guess I'm used to my country going MTB with a decent soft ride smile

If any of you spot something suitable on Fleabay or elsewhere, let me know wink

Thanks again,
NL

dubbs

1,590 posts

291 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Suspension will just sap your power - not needed on the road. If you want to be a girl then get a suspension seat post :-)

mk1fan

10,648 posts

232 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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NobleLord said:
It seems that 55 inches is the right one.
NL
Holy Moly how tall are you that you need a 55-inch frame!?!?!?

Gizmo535

18,150 posts

216 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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I took a Ridgeback Velocity for a ride the other week - £300 so not the end of the world if it does get pinched, 24 speed, very very quick, and came with a suspension seatpost.

It's been tempting me...

NobleLord

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255 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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mk1fan said:
NobleLord said:
It seems that 55 inches is the right one.
NL
Holy Moly how tall are you that you need a 55-inch frame!?!?!?
I'm 5'10" or so... the guy in the bike shop that I went to the other night recommended a 55-inch frame. I have to admit, it did seem a bit on the big side, but worked fine. He also told me that the saddle should be level with the top of your hip. Is that right?

NL

pdV6

16,442 posts

268 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Have to assume he meant 55cm, which would be about 21" or so.

Still sounds big for a 5'10"-er.

You do realise that seats can go up & down, right? No need to buy a larger frame just to get the seat up an inch! wink

NobleLord

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Thursday 10th April 2008
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pdV6 said:
Have to assume he meant 55cm, which would be about 21" or so.

Still sounds big for a 5'10"-er.

You do realise that seats can go up & down, right? No need to buy a larger frame just to get the seat up an inch! wink
I think you're right... 55cm sounds more logical wink The bike I tried was a Specialized hybrid jobby. Yes; the saddle was raised a bit.... I'm pretty lacking on bike knowledge, but I did realise that the saddle can be moved wink

So, 20 or 21 inch frame for me I guess. A quick search on the web and I found a new Ridgeback Velocity for £204. Sounds like a good deal to me. Might go for it.

Cheers,
NL

will_

6,030 posts

210 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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NobleLord said:
pdV6 said:
Have to assume he meant 55cm, which would be about 21" or so.

Still sounds big for a 5'10"-er.

You do realise that seats can go up & down, right? No need to buy a larger frame just to get the seat up an inch! wink
I think you're right... 55cm sounds more logical wink The bike I tried was a Specialized hybrid jobby. Yes; the saddle was raised a bit.... I'm pretty lacking on bike knowledge, but I did realise that the saddle can be moved wink

So, 20 or 21 inch frame for me I guess. A quick search on the web and I found a new Ridgeback Velocity for £204. Sounds like a good deal to me. Might go for it.

Cheers,
NL
Good choice but I'd still go second hand if you can - not just the cost saving but it will be a bit rougher and less nickable. TBH any 'brand name' bike is a target for the scum, it's easy money for them as they never get caught and any bike lock can be broken in a minute or so. The best anti-theft option is to have a bike that at least doesn't look like it's worth nicking.

pdV6

16,442 posts

268 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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NobleLord said:
So, 20 or 21 inch frame for me I guess.
I'd try some for size first; 20"+ is very big for you on a MTB / hybrid style frame, I'd have thought more like 19" would be nearer the mark?

deckster

9,631 posts

262 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Stock answer to this question is EBC's Revolution Courier. Been using one for five years; it lives at Paddington and takes me to Fleet Street and back every day. I clean it once a year and it's never missed a beat, really can't fault it.

http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwPNLqrymode.a4p?...

Sway

29,228 posts

201 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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DON'T get a 20'' frame, I'm 6 foot, and would ride a max of 18''

As you've said, the saddle can be raised or lowered, the important measurement is the length of the top tube, as it's far more hassle to change the length of the handlebar stem (and can affect the steering).

Far better to go slightly smaller, so being able to ride more compactly, putting less strain on your wrists, and allowing you to flick in and out of traffic more easily.

Used to commute 15 miles each way through London, best bike I ever had for it was a race BMX frame, with a 19'' top tube, cruiser bars, long seatpost, and road gearing. The small wheels meant it accelerated really quickly, good in stop/start stuff, it could be thrown around easily, and was tough as you like. (Probably not for you though as at the time I worked in a bike shop so could play with components til the sizing/gearing was perfect)

Get a 21'' frame and you'll never be truly comfortable unless you've got a disproportionately long upper body (or gorilla arms)