Chain advice

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johnnywb

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1,631 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Changed the chain on my MTB recently (a couple of months ago). It's mainly used for the commute (5 miles each way on road) and a small amount of off roading (no time at the moment).

I replaced the old chain with a SRAM chain (i have SRAM shifters). However, in the past 6 weeks, the chain has broken twice.

Can someone recommend a decent chain? Are Shimano better?

gbbird

5,193 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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SRAM are meant to be the beeter chain of the two you mention, so not sure why it has broken twice. Perhaps a dodgy chain, or there is something amiss with your drivetrain

g

Nick_F

10,295 posts

253 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Invest in a decent chain tool - treat the one on your combi tool or any other ceap 'n' cheerful chain tool as for emergency use only.

catso

14,851 posts

274 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Recently bought a KMC chain (no I'd never heard of them either) which has a 'hook-on' link to join it - can remove in seconds for cleaning, not had any problems and it seems nice n' strong.

beer

WildCards

4,061 posts

224 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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johnnywb said:
I replaced the old chain with a SRAM chain (i have SRAM shifters). However, in the past 6 weeks, the chain has broken twice.
Have you checked for bent teeth and other misaligned stuff? Could be that the chain is being prised apart somewhere along it's travels, if so, it'll only happen to the new one.

mat205125

17,790 posts

220 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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WildCards said:
johnnywb said:
I replaced the old chain with a SRAM chain (i have SRAM shifters). However, in the past 6 weeks, the chain has broken twice.
Have you checked for bent teeth and other misaligned stuff? Could be that the chain is being prised apart somewhere along it's travels, if so, it'll only happen to the new one.
Are you sure that you are 100% sure you are buying a chain that matches the number of speeds your bike runs? Time differences in dimensions and spacing of teeth could put massive loads on single teeth if you were to accidently make an error .... the afformentioned chainset / cassette wear might also be the route cause too

johnnywb

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1,631 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Thanks for the input guys.

The chainset was new at the same time as the chain.

The cassette is old, but seems fine. Might get someone to check it all out to be sure, don't really want to have another enforced run home!

Ta.

pdV6

16,442 posts

268 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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To follow up on Mat's point, how many gears do you have?

Moose.

5,342 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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The only chain I've ever broken was an 8 speed Shimano one. Replaced with a SRAM one which lasted over a year's worth of riding. Now running a Shimano LX jobby that came as part of an LX 9 speed groupset. Only been on there a couple of months but would replace with a SRAM when if/when it breaks.

mk1fan

10,648 posts

232 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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There are plenty of plausible reasons for your chain snapping.

Modern chains are very well made but do require a certain amount of care. Firstly you need to use the right chain that matches how many cogs there are on your cassette (7, 8, 9 or 10).

You can't 'add' additional links, or rejoin a split link, on a Sram chain. You remove enough links to get the length correct and join it using a Power Link. If a Sram chain snaps you need to fix it with another Power Link. You can't just shorten the chain and put in the pin with a chain splitter. They will just snap again.

Shimano chains can be split and re-joined but you need to use a new pin each time or they'll just snap again.

At the end of the day both Shimano and Sram make very good chains at very good prices and either should provide trouble free service (although other manufacturers are available). I know a lot of people who run Shimano chains with a Sram Power Link to aid maintenance.

If the chain was fitted and sized correctly then I would check the remaining drive train for wear / damage. From what you said I would say that the chain broke once and you fixed it by putting in a new link. The chain then broke again in the same place. If the rest of the drivetrain is fine then I'd think you just were unlucky and got a bad chain.


pawsmcgraw

957 posts

265 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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What a diplomatic opinion on chains, i feel you could sell either mk1 smile i agree 100%

We did load tests recently on chain strengh and although not sanctioned by any manufacturer heres briefly what we found.(12 tonne press with a strain guage and dti guage measuring length)

Shimano 10 speed chains are not only the hardest material but take the most load to break.
Sram 9 speeds are weaker than the shimano 9 speed by a small amount
Sram single speed chains are very weak
KMC chains have an elstic limit higher than any we tested
10sp power link is considerably stronger than a 9sp,an 8 speed weaker still
For ease of use the breaker link is best for sure, but for strength, the pin is strongest

belt drive, is it the way of the future hehe


Black5

579 posts

230 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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johnnywb said:
Thanks for the input guys.

The chainset was new at the same time as the chain.

The cassette is old, but seems fine. Might get someone to check it all out to be sure, don't really want to have another enforced run home!

Ta.
May not be the reason for the chain snapping, but you should replace Cassette same time as chain, otherwise you'll get excessive wear on the new chain.

pdV6

16,442 posts

268 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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Black5 said:
May not be the reason for the chain snapping, but you should replace Cassette same time as chain, otherwise you'll get excessive wear on the new chain.
Depends how worn the chain was when it snapped. If still in spec, then the original cassette should be okay (that's why you need to measure your chain and replace at the appropriate time).